RTC Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Fine, here’s evidence that at least Abreu can get along with Puig... https://www.mlb.com/news/jose-abreu-yasiel-puig-reunite-as-opponents-in-los-angeles/c-77924930 I'm not saying he can't or won't. I have no clue. If they do get along, good for them. I still wouldn't want that dill hole on the Sox though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, RTC said: This is like saying all white guys get along because they're white and speak english. Ask Eaton and Frazier how that worked out. Not at all. Cuba has a smaller population than the State of Illinois and I imagine the process of defecting from their homeland creates a bond and life experience that unites countrymen like this that white boys like Eaton and Frazier could never relate to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 6:47 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: He doesn't even hit for enough power to be a supersub on good teams nor is he good fundamentally. The Leury's of baseball will always be there. There is no reason for him to be in the conversation. While you are probably right, Leury would really, really help the Cubs right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, RTC said: This is like saying all white guys get along because they're white and speak english. Ask Eaton and Frazier how that worked out. It's different for foreign minorities. There is a bond/brotherhood, especially when they are on the same team. That's why Abreu became the instant mentor for Moncada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I can't believe people are penciling in Collins for the 2020 25 man roster. For what? What has he proven while he has been up? He is a butcher behind the plate and has not shown he can hit above the Mendoza line. Let him catch the rest of the games this season and have the opportunity to prove otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, tray said: I can't believe people are penciling in Collins for the 2020 25 man roster. For what? What has he proven while he has been up? He is a butcher behind the plate and has not shown he can hit above the Mendoza line. Let him catch the rest of the games this season and have the opportunity to prove otherwise. Your take on Collins is the same as mine. Let him play and show us he belongs. Grandal is on my offseason get list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I'd like to see us bring in JD Martinez Grandal Jake O or Bum or Stras or Wheeler Alex Gordon This will be expensive but I think you'll get a ton of value out of this group and can win 90 games. I don't think we have a shot at Cole, and I really want a second starter and would take a chance on Cole Hamels at the right price on a two year deal with an option. All of these guys would get 4 years or less and would be off the books when it is time to pay the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 hour ago, SonofaRoache said: I'd like to see us bring in JD Martinez Grandal Jake O or Bum or Stras or Wheeler Alex Gordon This will be expensive but I think you'll get a ton of value out of this group and can win 90 games. I don't think we have a shot at Cole, and I really want a second starter and would take a chance on Cole Hamels at the right price on a two year deal with an option. All of these guys would get 4 years or less and would be off the books when it is time to pay the core. Strasburg & Bumgarner are getting more than four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: I'd like to see us bring in JD Martinez Grandal Jake O or Bum or Stras or Wheeler Alex Gordon This will be expensive but I think you'll get a ton of value out of this group and can win 90 games. I don't think we have a shot at Cole, and I really want a second starter and would take a chance on Cole Hamels at the right price on a two year deal with an option. All of these guys would get 4 years or less and would be off the books when it is time to pay the core. Gordon only wants to play for KC. Switch him out for Calhoun and the rest is fine and within the $ parameters you set. I particularly think Grandal would fit great. Need two of those starters and at least two solid RP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Strasburg Grandal Will Smith Ozuna- if miss out try to trade for joc pedersen and put in RF Trade a package of Collins/Vaughn and minors starter for Pederson or RF. This allows Abreu/Eloy to DH when needed. This strengthens every position of need and no deal other than strasburg would require more than 2-3 tops. Edited September 14, 2019 by EloyJenkins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, poppysox said: Gordon only wants to play for KC. Switch him out for Calhoun and the rest is fine and within the $ parameters you set. I particularly think Grandal would fit great. Need two of those starters and at least two solid RP. He may want to stay but they may not want him. I wouldn't pay him to lose 100 games the next two or three years. We will keep Abreu because we can win the division next year. I think we only get one good starter and a Cole Hamels wildcard type. We may need to trade for some relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Edited: Misread who I quoted Edited September 14, 2019 by BackDoorBreach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 11 hours ago, EloyJenkins said: Trade a package of Collins/Vaughn and minors starter for Pederson or RF. I wouldn’t trade nearly that much for one year of Joc Pederson. I get it, we’re desperate but still, we have to make moves that have decent value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 16 hours ago, EloyJenkins said: Strasburg Grandal Will Smith Ozuna- if miss out try to trade for joc pedersen and put in RF Trade a package of Collins/Vaughn and minors starter for Pederson or RF. This allows Abreu/Eloy to DH when needed. This strengthens every position of need and no deal other than strasburg would require more than 2-3 tops. Vaughn alone for Pederson would be such a comically bad trade for the White Sox. Cmon man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I'm bumping this thread to make it easier to get some posts moved from the Moncada thread to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Vaughn for Pederson? Who hurt you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Still hoping the White Sox sign JDM. He’d be an ideal fit even if they bring Abreu back for another two years. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-could-lose-mookie-betts-or-j-d-martinez-this-offseason-in-order-to-get-under-luxury-tax-report-says/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 And I’ll surely take Betts off their hands if they’d like too 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Still hoping the White Sox sign JDM. He’d be an ideal fit even if they bring Abreu back for another two years. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-could-lose-mookie-betts-or-j-d-martinez-this-offseason-in-order-to-get-under-luxury-tax-report-says/amp/ I'm on the JDM train. That would require Abreu getting like a 1 year deal though which I don't think will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: I'm on the JDM train. That would require Abreu getting like a 1 year deal though which I don't think will happen. Nah, two years for Abreu would still work. He’d play 1b until Vaughn is ready sometime in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Nah, two years for Abreu would still work. He’d play 1b until Vaughn is ready sometime in 2021. Unless Vaughn absolutely sucks, he should be up sometime in 2021. What are they doing to do with Abreu (DH), JDM (DH), and Vaughn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Unless Vaughn absolutely sucks, he should be up sometime in 2021. What are they doing to do with Abreu (DH), JDM (DH), and Vaughn? Did you mean to say 2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: Unless Vaughn absolutely sucks, he should be up sometime in 2021. What are they doing to do with Abreu (DH), JDM (DH), and Vaughn? JDM will DH and play a little OF. Abreu will DH and play some 1b. Vaughn will play 1b but you could theoretically get all three in the lineup at the same time. Also, there’s no guarantee Vaughn will be ready by April/May 2021 so the second year on Abreu is a cheap insurance policy in case Vaughn isn’t ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: Did you mean to say 2020? No, I don't think he's going to be up within a year of his draft date. And especially not if JDM and Abreu are signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: JDM will DH and play a little OF. Abreu will DH and play some 1b. Vaughn will play 1b but you could theoretically get all three in the lineup at the same time. Also, there’s no guarantee Vaughn will be ready by April/May 2021 so the second year on Abreu is a cheap insurance policy in case Vaughn isn’t ready. There is no way that works next year. Collins also plays 1B/DH and would be counting on some of those AB's. They should be signing or trading for an actual MLB RF this off season. The chance that JDM/Abreu (Who will both be on multi-year contracts) + Vaughn being in the lineup at the same time would be a handful of times a year at best. It doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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