bmags Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Let's make chicago a Gio metro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Wouldn't it be part trois? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, mqr said: Wouldn't it be part trois? Damn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I'd be for dropping Santana for Gio. I'm not sure if either is an effective starter at this point but I have more faith in the latter than the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Hypothetically if Santana were dropped for Gio...we'd literally have spent more than $1 million per start on Santana, wouldn't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, daggins said: I'd be for dropping Santana for Gio. I'm not sure if either is an effective starter at this point but I have more faith in the latter than the former. Gio Gonzalez last had an effective month 6 months ago. Ervin Santana was last effective in 2017. I'm taking Gio every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, daggins said: I'd be for dropping Santana for Gio. I'm not sure if either is an effective starter at this point but I have more faith in the latter than the former. And he's a lefty. Ricky will be so relieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 19, 2019 Author Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Hypothetically if Santana were dropped for Gio...we'd literally have spent more than $1 million per start on Santana, wouldn't we? From your tone I feel like you are implying we didn't get our money's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Hypothetically if Santana were dropped for Gio...we'd literally have spent more than $1 million per start on Santana, wouldn't we? Yeah but i'd rather they eat the sunk cost and save us from seeing ~25 more Santana starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 No thanks. Pass. Gio Gonzalez is every bit as finished as Santana. At least Santana got it done two years ago in the AL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, bmags said: From your tone I feel like you are implying we didn't get our money's worth. I feel we can always use more sarcasm on soxtalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 I'd say yes...but rather they save up a bit more of that Hahn "Money will be spent" for Keuchel on June 1st. Maybe that knocks the price per start for Santana down to like 500k a game...🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 (edited) On 4/19/2019 at 9:59 AM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: No thanks. Pass. Gio Gonzalez is every bit as finished as Santana. At least Santana got it done two years ago in the AL. This fangraphs article thinks otherwise, Although he's in decline most projection systems think he will be a 2.0 WAR pitcher and the fangraphs article also thinks he is not finished citing various Statcast data. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-yankees-sign-gio-gonzalez-for-minimal-risk-money/ Edited April 23, 2019 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside link to fangraphs article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Hypothetically if Santana were dropped for Gio...we'd literally have spent more than $1 million per start on Santana, wouldn't we? Rick is a dumpster diving expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 For anyone interested how he's been doing in AAA since the Yankees signed him I'll give you some details although they have to be consider like spring training for him . 3 games started, 15 innings, 6.00 ERA, 19 K, 6 BB, 1.67 WHIP, 1 HR At the end of last year with the Brewers in 5 starts he had a 2.13 ERA and 0.95 WHIP but didn't last long in the playoffs with the Brewers pulling him very early in 2 games . Only 3 Innings pitched, 2 runs given up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 The K/BB/HR numbers look good, which is the most useful in small samples. I doubt Santana would have anything like that in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Now that he's officially free, there's absolutely no reason the sox shouldn't try to bring him on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, mqr said: Now that he's officially free, there's absolutely no reason the sox shouldn't try to bring him on board. I thought his contract was only guaranteed when he was placed on the 40-man? Giving them a reason not to do it. Or am I wrong here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: I thought his contract was only guaranteed when he was placed on the 40-man? Giving them a reason not to do it. Or am I wrong here? You're right. He is not going to be "free". He is free to sign with the highest bidder, or whomever he likes. He did not sign a guaranteed contract whereby he can now only get the MLB min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: You're right. He is not going to be "free". He is free to sign with the highest bidder, or whomever he likes. He did not sign a guaranteed contract whereby he can now only get the MLB min. This is what I meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 What is the point in spending money on Gio though? We've got Rodon, Lopez, Giolito who all need their 30 starts. Nova and Santana. Banuelos if/when needed. Will need another spot for Cease in a couple months. I just don't see the need to add a veteran starter unless its literally for like $1M, or someone gets injured soon. Let the younger guys get their innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) He was available all winter, they've had him before, and didn't make a move. I suspect he's not a Cooper guy. Edited April 22, 2019 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: What is the point in spending money on Gio though? We've got Rodon, Lopez, Giolito who all need their 30 starts. Nova and Santana. Banuelos if/when needed. Will need another spot for Cease in a couple months. I just don't see the need to add a veteran starter unless its literally for like $1M, or someone gets injured soon. Let the younger guys get their innings. Yeah there really isn't room. Unless he takes another minor league deal with another opt-out date a few weeks after he signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, soxfan2014 said: Yeah there really isn't room. Unless he takes another minor league deal with another opt-out date a few weeks after he signs. There has to be someone who wanted to be competitive who has lost a couple of starters already right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: There has to be someone who wanted to be competitive who has lost a couple of starters already right? Yeah I would think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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