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1 minute ago, wrathofhahn said:

I'm not arguing the punishment fine him suspend him do whatever it's 162 game season what does it matter. Just show it's not tolerated.

I remember when the SS of the blue jays used a gay slur on the field "Tu Ere Marcion??" the response was much more harsh I think he got suspended 5 games and was traded afterwards. Pillar got suspended two games for saying the same and ultimately was traded. Matt Joyce got suspended two games for saying the same thing. In retrospect 1 game seems kind of light but like I said it's 162 games 1 or 2 games what does it matter.

It's all just symbolic.

Tying Pillar getting traded to using a slur seems like one hell of reach

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Just now, mqr said:

Tying Pillar getting traded to using a slur seems like one hell of reach

In both cases they didn't stick around a whole lot longer.

Whether that is directly tied I dunno but it probably didn't help

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3 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said:

In both cases they didn't stick around a whole lot longer.

Whether that is directly tied I dunno but it probably didn't help

Pillar used the slur in May of 2017 and got traded a couple of weeks ago. There is no correlation

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37 minutes ago, Tony said:

Don't let facts get in the way of a dumb argument. 

It had little or nothing to do with my actual argument but go ahead flame away.

The point is the MLB has a history of suspending players for using inappropriate language on the field and if you look at the history of suspensions Anderson suspension is completely in line with others if not a little light.

I don't even understand the consternation he was suspended a single game in a 162 game season. So what? Why does it matter to guys if he is fined and not suspended for a game?

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1 minute ago, wrathofhahn said:

It had little or nothing to do with my actual argument but go ahead flame away.

The point is the MLB has a history of suspending players for using inappropriate language on the field and if you look at the history of suspensions Anderson suspension is completely in line with others if not a little light.

I don't even understand the consternation he was suspended a single game in a 162 game season. So what? Why does it matter to guys if he is fined and not suspended for a game?

Yeah, straight people calling other people fa***ts is not the same as a black person calling a white person the N word. Please don't try to equate those things. 

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1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said:

Pillar used the slur in May of 2017 and got traded a couple of weeks ago. There is no correlation

I think he meant to say it was Escobar who got traded after that eye black debacle. 

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On 4/20/2019 at 10:03 PM, wrathofhahn said:

I stand with MLB that kind of language has no place in baseball.

For all those saying well who is Manfred to tell a black player not to use that language. He's the boss and as much as we all view it as a "game" it is still a workplace.

How many work places let you do this? 

 

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1 hour ago, chw42 said:

How many work places let you do this? 

 

Wait, you mean in meetings you don't take off your notepad, spike it on the ground and run at someone who made you mad yelling f-bombs?

That's not normal?

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As a white guy, I understand why it is frustrating to be told "you can't have an opinion on this because you are white."

But seriously, just think a little bit. Just a little. The only reason this is true is because blacks were told for centuries "you can't have freedom/humanity/equal rights etc because you are black." We brought this situation on ourselves, so lets stop making it worse and just shut up for once. 

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On a lighter note, I'd encourage you to watch Machado on his homer against Kershaw tonight. He broke all the unwritten rules. I wonder if the Dodgers will hit somebody in the series. When he crossed the plate he did a whole dance act with hand signals/gestures with not one, but two teammates. Definitely worst than what Timmy did. Wonder if the Dodgers are mad or not. You know if you hit Manny he's coming out to the mound.

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On ‎4‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 3:39 PM, gusguyman said:

As a white guy, I understand why it is frustrating to be told "you can't have an opinion on this because you are white."

But seriously, just think a little bit. Just a little. The only reason this is true is because blacks were told for centuries "you can't have freedom/humanity/equal rights etc because you are black." We brought this situation on ourselves, so lets stop making it worse and just shut up for once. 

Ditto

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On 4/22/2019 at 4:39 PM, gusguyman said:

As a white guy, I understand why it is frustrating to be told "you can't have an opinion on this because you are white."

But seriously, just think a little bit. Just a little. The only reason this is true is because blacks were told for centuries "you can't have freedom/humanity/equal rights etc because you are black." We brought this situation on ourselves, so lets stop making it worse and just shut up for once. 

PREACH.

Appreciate how many posters are on the right side of this issue. We're making progress y'all. 

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On 4/22/2019 at 3:39 PM, gusguyman said:

As a white guy, I understand why it is frustrating to be told "you can't have an opinion on this because you are white."

But seriously, just think a little bit. Just a little. The only reason this is true is because blacks were told for centuries "you can't have freedom/humanity/equal rights etc because you are black." We brought this situation on ourselves, so lets stop making it worse and just shut up for once. 

This is a wonderful post. 

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