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There is way more to a catcher than his framing. People in the org are raving anout McCann‘s prep work and rapport while not su subtly throwing Castillo and prior catchers under the bus. McCann is also far superior at blocking pitches.

 

Shame that the Sox are running him into the ground by having him play virtually every day.

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4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

It is curious though that some of the decisions the Sox made on youngish players didn't work out all that well. I know many hate the catching abilities of Narvaez and hated Avi but they both have had decent seasons. Narvaez  certainly was trending upwards when the the Sox traded him. Instead many thought we were selling high and thought he'd trend downward. He certainly had a good approach and his OBP clearly is a need on the Sox.

Don't get me wrong I'm good with the trade. I too hated his defense but I wasn't convinced the Sox were selling high as many were. The Sox shouldnt be selling off pieces like that especially when they were light of OBP players and light on LH bats and he had improved offensively a few years in a row.. Same with Avi . They could've resigned him to the type of contract TB did because he had one great year  no matter how lucky anyone thinks he was that year he was a proven talent.

They got rid of guys in positions they still have black holes in which is OBP guys, LH quality bat and RF. How can I trust scouting and talent evaluation when they can't even evaluate their own that well ? They gave up so far 3 WAR (combined Narvaez and Avi ) and 4? years of  control on Narvaez for 2 years of Colome in years they probably don't make the playoffs.

Or assessing Alonso vs. Nelson Cruz, who has outproduced him (Yonder’s entire season) in just two games over the course of last ten days.

How do the Twins get almost all of their offseason moves right and we only got McCann and Colome as useful pieces out of $30 million in additions?

Edited by caulfield12

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6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Or assessing Alonso vs. Nelson Cruz, who has outproduced him (Yonder’s entire season) in just two games over the course of last ten days.

How do the Twins get almost all of their offseason moves right and we only got McCann and Colome as useful pieces out of $30 million in additions?

They didnt assess Alonso over Cruz . You know it was purely about Machado as was Jay and perhaps Nova Castillo . Was it Colome that played on the WBC team with Machado ?

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12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

They didnt assess Alonso over Cruz . You know it was purely about Machado as was Jay and perhaps Nova Castillo . Was it Colome that played on the WBC team with Machado ?

Colome or Castillo...possibly Herrera.

Ironically, Cruz is also Dominican, a former teammate of Machado’s, and a borderline HoF career statistically.

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Colome or Castillo...possibly Herrera.

Ironically, Cruz is also Dominican, a former teammate of Machado’s, and a borderline HoF career statistically.

Yea Castillo and Colome were on the DR WBC team with him and Alonso brother in law and Jay personal friend. So if the Sox were truly preparing to add Machado for 2 years  that is the way they went about it. Cruz was also a teammate on that WBC so the only reason they might've wanted Alonso since he was left handed and could play 1st base and was a part of Machado's inner circle. . As far as talent goes Cruz who was (surprise } more expensive but way more talented.

So it turned out to be add 4 family, friends ,teammates,Dominicans while also underbidding on him while also throwing in a Frank Thomas diminished skills clause in the guise of games played clause. Still doing business the risk adverse way even with a top young talent at the top of his game who also stays on the field all year long.

Its the Sox way to half-ass everything and people wonder why anyone has doubts about adding the right talent or offering the right contract or even presenting themselves in a way that doesn't look imcompetent.

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On 8/4/2019 at 4:10 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

They didnt assess Alonso over Cruz . You know it was purely about Machado as was Jay and perhaps Nova Castillo . Was it Colome that played on the WBC team with Machado ?

Jay and Nova are what we thought they would be.  Colome and McCann have been pleasant surprises.  Only Alonso crapped the bed.

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1 hour ago, poppysox said:

Jay and Nova are what we thought they would be.  Colome and McCann have been pleasant surprises.  Only Alonso crapped the bed.

You're forgetting Herrera...

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On 8/7/2019 at 9:11 PM, poppysox said:

Jay and Nova are what we thought they would be.  Colome and McCann have been pleasant surprises.  Only Alonso crapped the bed.

If they were what Hahn thought they would be, he would have been able to trade them at the deadline.  Jay missed too much of the season and Nova didn’t start pitching well until too late.  Herrera has been awful.

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