Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) Rare but certainly not unheard of. I have a serious issue with it because it's a giant FU to the entire scouting department. Those guys bust their asses all year spending countless nights away from their families watching game after game in shit weather then when the draft finally comes rather than taking one of their gut feel guys they spent endless time on watching and getting all the background info they take the nephew of the god damn traveling secretary. It's bad form and an awful way to run an organization. Edit: just this week a 32nd round pick (John St Locke) and an undrafted guy (Mike Brosseau) made their big league debuts. I get the casual fan doesn't give a shit about these guys because they're not future Hall of Famers but this is the kind of stuff that makes a scouts career. But hey go ahead and use a late round pick on the grandson of the owner who doesn't even play god damn baseball. No one cares. Edited June 28, 2019 by Harold's Leg Lift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Rare but certainly not unheard of. I have a serious issue with it because it's a giant FU to the entire scouting department. Those guys bust their asses all year spending countless nights away from their families watching game after game in shit weather then when the draft finally comes rather than taking one of their gut feel guys they spent endless time on watching and getting all the background info they take the nephew of the god damn traveling secretary. It's bad form and an awful way to run an organization. Edit: just this week a 32nd round pick (John St Locke) and an undrafted guy (Mike Brosseau) made their big league debuts. I get the casual fan doesn't give a shit about these guys because they're not future Hall of Famers but this is the kind of stuff that makes a scouts career. But hey go ahead and use a late round pick on the grandson of the owner who doesn't even play god damn baseball. No one cares. Nice commentary, Harold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Rare but certainly not unheard of. I have a serious issue with it because it's a giant FU to the entire scouting department. Those guys bust their asses all year spending countless nights away from their families watching game after game in shit weather then when the draft finally comes rather than taking one of their gut feel guys they spent endless time on watching and getting all the background info they take the nephew of the god damn traveling secretary. It's bad form and an awful way to run an organization. Edit: just this week a 32nd round pick (John St Locke) and an undrafted guy (Mike Brosseau) made their big league debuts. I get the casual fan doesn't give a shit about these guys because they're not future Hall of Famers but this is the kind of stuff that makes a scouts career. But hey go ahead and use a late round pick on the grandson of the owner who doesn't even play god damn baseball. No one cares. If a scout has strong gut feel for a guy who hasn't been drafted by 30 teams after 35 rounds, good for them. Even so, if they have that compelling of a case to go after the player we could have drafted that player earlier or sign them as UDFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Rare but certainly not unheard of. I have a serious issue with it because it's a giant FU to the entire scouting department. Those guys bust their asses all year spending countless nights away from their families watching game after game in shit weather then when the draft finally comes rather than taking one of their gut feel guys they spent endless time on watching and getting all the background info they take the nephew of the god damn traveling secretary. It's bad form and an awful way to run an organization. Edit: just this week a 32nd round pick (John St Locke) and an undrafted guy (Mike Brosseau) made their big league debuts. I get the casual fan doesn't give a shit about these guys because they're not future Hall of Famers but this is the kind of stuff that makes a scouts career. But hey go ahead and use a late round pick on the grandson of the owner who doesn't even play god damn baseball. No one cares. If the best a scout can do is convince a team to draft a guy in the 32nd round, he will not be employed long. They get their reputation by getting guys drafted in the upper rounds and the ones that become MLB regulars and stars. You are really reaching for things to criticize when it's something that all teams do even if the Sox do it more than others, which I doubt. Maybe you should be more angry that they didn't take the one that was worth drafting, Allen Thomas kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 There are scouts who don't get drafts every year. An organization has about 20 area scouts and the draft is 40 rounds. That's 2 a guy before you factor in the draft is dominated by players in California, Florida and Texas. Then you have an organization that punts on later round picks to take the god damn groundskeepers son and your chances of getting a guy are even less. It's very easy to get shutout but hell you got it all figured out. Just convince them to take an upper round guy. I wonder why no one else thought of that. Thank you for your concern but I'll choose what I want to be angry about and passing on Alec is not it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Wow matthew Allen only signed for 2.5 million. Wonder why teams thought he was so unattainable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Yea, crazy good job negotiation by Mets if he started at $4M. You can’t convince me Thompson is worth only $400k less than Allan, another example of Sox being bad at negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Yea, crazy good job negotiation by Mets if he started at $4M. You can’t convince me Thompson is worth only $400k less than Allan, another example of Sox being bad at negotiations. I don't really care what the denominations are so long as they got the guys they wanted. It pissed me off when it was Walker/Sheets going over slot for some reason when it could have affected getting good young prep talent, but they got good young prep talent in this case and we just have to trust their scouts and pd regardless (trust = cross fingers and hope) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Correct me if wrong, but it looks like Sox cannot offer Dalquist $2MM without going deep into the penalty box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, oldsox said: Correct me if wrong, but it looks like Sox cannot offer Dalquist $2MM without going deep into the penalty box. if logan glass is getting 200k, than we can offer 2.05 million from my understanding. If he gets 2.1 then glass is only getting like 125k if he signs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Glass already has the $200k, right? It all looks do-able. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, oldsox said: Glass already has the $200k, right? It all looks do-able. I don't think so, I think that was just a report. But yes I expect sox to go right up to the 500k limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Yea, crazy good job negotiation by Mets if he started at $4M. You can’t convince me Thompson is worth only $400k less than Allan, another example of Sox being bad at negotiations. If every team was under the impression he was going to sign for around 2.5 million, you would have had many more suitors. I can't fault the White Sox on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Sleepy Harold said: Beat me to it! 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 Glad that's over. Hope we hear about glass, then get em on in here (although HS pitchers are a little anti-climactic post-draft) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2019 Author Share Posted June 28, 2019 So one thing I didn't realize is that hudson head made 3mill, so for all of the craziness with Allen, Head got a bigger payout in the same round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Fan In Husker Land Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Sox should have $127,525 left to offer over slot to anyone not signed in rounds 11-40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BamaDoc Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sox Fan In Husker Land said: Sox should have $127,525 left to offer over slot to anyone not signed in rounds 11-40. So if Glass is coming in at 200 that eats up 100k so that leaves a max offer of 127,525 to any of the remaining six. the 27,525 probably not enough to sway a high schooler. Oops wrong math. evidently 125k is the max before pool so 152,525 which below goes to Freeman Edited June 28, 2019 by BamaDoc math error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BamaDoc Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: If Glass does sign then only 15th rounder Caleb Freeman rhp hasn't signed out of top 27 picks. Pretty darn good and maybe he signs as I think he is listed as a signer per the future sox draft tracker so impressive. So while typing SH posts Freeman signs...Cool! Edited June 28, 2019 by BamaDoc signed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 @Y2Jimmy0 already said Dalquist, Glass and Freeman are signing. So I expect Glass to sign shortly as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Fan In Husker Land Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, BamaDoc said: So if Glass is coming in at 200 that eats up 100k so that leaves a max offer of 127,525 to any of the remaining six. the 27,525 probably not enough to sway a high schooler. Oops wrong math. evidently 125k is the max before pool so 152,525 which below goes to Freeman My numbers have Glass at signing for $200K as reported on the 1st page of this thread. If Glass did sign for $200K, then the Sox have $102,575 after signing Freeman for Trenkle, Krogrman, Britt, and Flood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 According to Scott Gregor, Vaughn will most likely spend some time in Arizona, then head to Kannapolis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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