Moan4Yoan Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) https://mobile.twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1136431087104798720 No Colome for Nico Hoerner.  😰 Edited June 6, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strike27 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1136434593366777859 Multi-year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: https://mobile.twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1136434593366777859 Multi-year deal.  I understand why they need to do it, but they will regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Good. The Cubs dont have much I'd want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Say what you want but at least the bad guys on the Northside are trying to win. I can't say the same about the White Sox management team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ptatc said:  I understand why they need to do it, but they will regret it. Why?  We don’t even know the terms yet.  They didn’t have to give up a a draft pick and they haven’t paid Zobrist his salary since he was placed on the Restricted List on May 8th due to his divorce.  Zobrist exiting will pay for Kimbrel this year.  Also, it’s only money and the Cubs are swimming in it. Edited June 6, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I know he was looking for a ton of money. Interested to see the terms on this, might handicap them even more when they need to sign Bryant and co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Why?  We don’t even know the terms yet.  They didn’t have to give up a a draft pick and they haven’t paid Zobrist his salary since he was placed on the Restricted List on May 8th due to his divorce.  Zobrist exiting will pay for Kimbrel this year.  Also, it’s only money and the Cubs are swimming in it. I just don't think he has much left after watching him at the end of last year. He will be another guy they can't depend on in high leverage situations. The money really doesn't matter as I just don't think he will be dependable in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: I just don't think he has much left after watching him at the end of last year. He will be another guy they can't depend on in high leverage situations. The money really doesn't matter as I just don't think he will be dependable in the long run. His numbers in September of last year were fine.  Not sure what you saw.  Definitely worth a shot for this reason alone... https://mobile.twitter.com/KyleAGlaser/status/1136432272868093952?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 So a little under 15m a year. Pretty big drop in price. Didn't he want like 20M+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Must be nice to sit at the adults table 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sockin said: So a little under 15m a year. Pretty big drop in price. Didn't he want like 20M+? Chump change for the Cubs.  Pretty good deal.  I don’t see them regretting that contract.  Plus, the Cubs basically got back $9 million of Zobrist’s $12 million dollar salary for this season to give to Kimbrel when he essentially retired.  They also get insurance money back at the end of the season for Morrow being a bum and never pitching. Edited June 6, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sockin said: So a little under 15m a year. Pretty big drop in price. Didn't he want like 20M+? Pretty close to twenty when you consider it’s only 2.5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Knew this would happen when they said Zobrist is likely not coming back (they don't have to pay him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: His numbers in September of last year were fine.  Not sure what you saw.  Definitely worth a shot for this reason alone... https://mobile.twitter.com/KyleAGlaser/status/1136432272868093952?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet I was thinking more in the playoffs. I'm old and could be wrong but I remember a poor post season. They have to do it for this season, they dont have much else. That's why I said I understand why they are doing it. I just think they will regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, mqr said: Pretty close to twenty when you consider it’s only 2.5 years True, but it’s also more like 2.5-years, $36 million to the Cubs due to the freed up Zobrist money (around $9 million). I’m sure the Cubs already know that Zobrist is done for the year and possibly going to retire. Edited June 6, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Chump change for the Cubs.  Pretty good deal.  I don’t see them regretting that contract.  Plus, the Cubs basically got back $9 million of Zobrist’s $12 million dollar salary for this season to give to Kimbrel when he essentially retired.  They also get insurance money back at the end of the season for Morrow being a bum and never pitching. Theo paying for not being able to draft pitching. It will be interesting to see how close to the penalty they are and what it does to their ability to sign/keep players next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, Sockin said: So a little under 15m a year. Pretty big drop in price. Didn't he want like 20M+? Well, if you account for how much of this year has passed already, it is closer to 17 per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ptatc said: Theo paying for not being able to draft pitching. It will be interesting to see how close to the penalty they are and what it does to their ability to sign/keep players next year. I agree that Theo has failed to develop pitching.  But all of their moves year after year prove that it doesn’t matter.  They are printing money.  They need a closer?  Boom, here’s $45 million. Hahn barely gets to spend that in one offseason.  He must be jealous.  No expensive toys for Rick.  Rick would never get this kind of love from his ownership.  Gotta be nice. Edited June 6, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Just now, Moan4Yoan said: All of their moves year after year prove that it doesn’t matter.  They are printing money.  They need a closer?  Boom, here’s $45 million. Hahn barely gets to spend that in one offseason.  He must be jealous.  No expensive toys for Rick. Their excuse for not adding any significant players this past offseason was that they didn't want to get into the penalty tax. If Zobrist doesnt have marital problems they ,at not have done this deal. Maybe once the new TV revenue kicks in they won't care about the penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: Their excuse for not adding any significant players this past offseason was that they didn't want to get into the penalty tax. If Zobrist doesnt have marital problems they ,at not have done this deal. Maybe once the new TV revenue kicks in they won't care about the penalty. I guess it doesn’t really matter.  It’s worked out for them.  And yes, they will be printing even more money when they get that new TV station revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Cubs were definitely desperate for a closer. They’ve paid through their nose to acquire their last four closers now between cash and young talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan of Steel Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, WBWSF said: Say what you want but at least the bad guys on the Northside are trying to win. I can't say the same about the White Sox management team. Funny. I think Cub fans were saying the same thing back in 2012 when the Cubs were awful and the Sox were trying to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Dan of Steel said: Funny. I think Cub fans were saying the same thing back in 2012 when the Cubs were awful and the Sox were trying to win. And the Cubs and Astros were awful for more seasons (so far). The Astros lost 100 games 3 years in a row. The Sox had 1. Can you imagine the reaction here if the Sox did that? While the Sox rebuild has been painful it hasn't been (so far) that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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