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How does this exactly work?  Are all 3 in already, do they take the top 2 and we vote the starter from this?  I don’t get the format. 

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Does that mean he's an all star at minimum? He ain't beating Sanchez

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2 hours ago, BFirebird said:

How does this exactly work?  Are all 3 in already, do they take the top 2 and we vote the starter from this?  I don’t get the format. 

The votes for the three finalists are reset - the one with the highest votes on Election Day is the starter; the other two are not guaranteed a roster spot.

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He'll get in, but he's not beating Sanchez. In a fair world, he might. However, Sanchez plays for the Yankees...

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10 minutes ago, Richie said:

He'll get in, but he's not beating Sanchez. In a fair world, he might. However, Sanchez plays for the Yankees...

In a fair and the real world, Sanchez’s numbers still top McCann’s.

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The All Star Game has very little relevance for me.  A popularity contest that favors the large market teams.

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2 hours ago, Moan4Yoan said:

In a fair and the real world, Sanchez’s numbers still top McCann’s.

Player A: 2.6 WAR .319/.380/.505 136 OPS+

Elite defensive catcher

Player B: 2.7 WAR .274/.340/.642 153 OPS+

Defensive prowess of a young Rosie O'Donnell

 

 And just like that... the Yankee blinders were lifted! For I was blind, but now I can see! Let there be light!

 Okay, but in all seriousness... 

 No one would deny that Sanchez has been a little bit better offensively, but when you take into that McCann's defense is night & day at probably the most important defensive position on the field? There is a big time argument for McCann.

 

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Lets get McCann on this All Star Team! He deserves it, he is a good person, and works his tail off.  He is a better hitter right now than Sanchez who is a strikeout machine and has a huge advantage in average over Chirinos.

Its not a long time frame to vote: Voting starts Wednesday at 11am CST and goes through 3pm CST on Thursday. Only 28 hours to vote. 

Im also voting for:

C:McCann, Grandal

1B:Santana, Bell

2B:LaStella, Marte

3B:Bregman, Arenado

SS:Polanco, Story

OF:Betts, Brantley, Trout..... Bellinger, Blackmon, Yelich

DH: JD Martinez

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On 6/22/2019 at 6:37 PM, Richie said:

Player A: 2.6 WAR .319/.380/.505 136 OPS+

Elite defensive catcher

Player B: 2.7 WAR .274/.340/.642 153 OPS+

Defensive prowess of a young Rosie O'Donnell

 

 And just like that... the Yankee blinders were lifted! For I was blind, but now I can see! Let there be light!

 Okay, but in all seriousness... 

 No one would deny that Sanchez has been a little bit better offensively, but when you take into that McCann's defense is night & day at probably the most important defensive position on the field? There is a big time argument for McCann.

 

Elite is a strong word

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2 hours ago, mqr said:

Elite is a strong word

Calling a difference of 88 points in OPS being “a little bit better offensively” is also a bit of an understatement.

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1 hour ago, Moan4Yoan said:

Calling a difference of 88 points in OPS being “a little bit better offensively” is also a bit of an understatement.

If OPS was the lone metric to measure offensive output... You MIGHT have a point. However, no... 88 points in OPS is not in a different world, his AVG/OBP are superior and as of yesterday McCann has passed Sanchez in WAR.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mccanja02.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mccanja02.shtml

 

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1 hour ago, Moan4Yoan said:

Calling a difference of 88 points in OPS being “a little bit better offensively” is also a bit of an understatement.

OBP > Slugging

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5 minutes ago, Richie said:

McCann is an elite pitch receiver, blocker and thrower from behind the plate. 

McCann is 2nd among active catchers in CS% at 37.1. He only trails Yadier Molina who sits at 40%

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/caught_stealing_perc_active.shtml

Are you making this up? BP has him at -3.7 Framing runs

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47 minutes ago, mqr said:

Are you making this up? BP has him at -3.7 FRAA

 Last I heard, pitch framing sabermetrics have been a subject of debate for a while. However, if I am wrong about that - I digress. I never watch a game and fall under the impression that McCann is anything but a solid pitch framer. I know his CS% is elite and that his defensive WAR is currently the equivalent to Austin Hedges defensive WAR.

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7 minutes ago, Richie said:

 Last I heard, pitch framing sabermetrics have been a subject of debate for a while. However, if I am wrong about that - I digress. I never watch a game and fall under the impression that McCann is anything but a solid pitch framer. I know his CS% is elite and that his defensive WAR is currently the equivalent to Austin Hedges defensive WAR.

McCann was pretty awful framing for Giolito last game

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McCann has for sure been one of the best catchers this year.  I wish we would reward him with an extension and remove any doubt about his long term future with us.  The ASG is a popularity contest and I don't think who gets to start has a thing to do with being best or not.

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