YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 It would be really nice to get that year of team control back if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 3:46 PM, ptatc said: I think he is to the point that he needs to learn to get MLB hitters out not AAA hitters. He would benefit more from doing this at the MLB level than AAA. In addition he needs to build up his endurance and strength and frequently skipping starts isn't conducive to that. The best plan is to either start him out on a regular schedule and shut him down early or start him on the IL and make his first start in June. However, either way they are without a member of the rotation for a couple of months. Would it hurt him to move to the bullpen once he reaches around 120 innings for the remainder of the season? End up around 140ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: It would be really nice to get that year of team control back if possible Yep. Late May / early June should do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 11:25 AM, ChiSox59 said: So basically shut down potentially your best pitcher in August because he's hit his workload for the year? Hard pass on that scenario. IMO, they need to do something to limit his workload in the early part of the season so if they're actually in contention they don't just lose his services for the season down the closing stretch of the season. And sure, let him go every 5th day down in AAA if that is the medically correct thing to do, but you can still control his workload in the early going by only letting him go a few innings per start and working up from there. Much easier to do that in AAA than in the big leagues. Why not just start him in the bullpen at AAA an inning at a time first and then stretch him out to start by August? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Send him down to AAA until we get that year of control back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 (edited) On 7/24/2019 at 12:32 PM, ptatc said: Pitching in AAA doesn't decrease his workload. The phantom IL time allows him to not pitch and decrease his overall innings. No matter which way they do it, they need to find a way to keep his overall innings, regardless if it's MLB or MiLB, to about 170-180 absolute max, maybe even 160-170 due to the injury. That's what I'm wondering, a pitch is a pitch whether it's in AAA or MLB. Seems like they can manage his workload just as well at the MLB level, under the supervision of their major league coaches/trainers. I do like the delayed spring training start though. Heck, they could even use him as an "opener" early in the year to manage his innings. Edited August 9, 2019 by bighurt574 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: It would be really nice to get that year of team control back if possible Can we get a year back or is the clock already ticking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 Just now, bighurt574 said: Can we get a year back or is the clock already ticking? Clock is ticking this year. Full year of control lost this season while he was on the IL. However, they can get back the 45-50 days or whatever he spent on the MLB roster in 2018 if he spends at least that many days in AAA (assuming he's not on MLB IL) in 2020. Therefore, they would extend their control 1 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, ron883 said: Send him down to AAA until we get that year of control back Yeah, and if we leave him down until June of 2023 we can really extend control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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