GermanSoxFan Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, fathom said: You mean besides the ridiculous amount of errors and one of the worst fWAR defensive ratings for shortstops I don't disagree about the errors, but you know as well as I do that this is a flawed way to look at things, having a competent 1B would help for instance. Even if he ranks among the bottom of the league, he still grades out as slightly below average, what other shortstops are doing is irreleavant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said: Even if he ranks among the bottom of the league, he still grades out as slightly below average, what other shortstops are doing is irreleavant. .... How do you think averages work? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 As much as I want to win this better be bummers last inning. Bring in Marshall for 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: I don't disagree about the errors, but you know as well as I do that this is a flawed way to look at things, having a competent 1B would help for instance. Even if he ranks among the bottom of the league, he still grades out as slightly below average, what other shortstops are doing is irreleavant. He’s 31st out of 36 SS with over 200 at bats this year defensively. That’s just not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, gusguyman said: .... How do you think averages work? Because the calculation of UZR isn't dependant on other players. The baseline of 0 means average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, fathom said: He’s 31st out of 36 SS with over 200 at bats this year defensively. That’s just not good I just don't think that awful is the right choice of words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 That was easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 He gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: Because the calculation of UZR isn't dependant on other players. The baseline of 0 means average. No, the baseline of 0 UZR means they save/cost about 0 runs. I assume you are referring to the fangraphs explainer that says a quick short hand is 0 is average, but that's not on purpose, that's just how it worked out at the time. However, this isn't true anymore at shortstop, a premium defensive position, where the average is around 5. Edited August 4, 2019 by gusguyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Im thinking Eloy does something good here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Eloy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Atta boy Eloy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Im thinking Eloy does something good here. Good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 4, 2019 Author Share Posted August 4, 2019 ELOY BOMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Yay juiced ball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Get locked in again, Eloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, 2Deep said: Good call Almost could see it coming. Pitcher was throwing a lot of meatballs and Eloy has proven he can hit meatballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradMc Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Big Daddy was getting closer and closer all game. Bat him ahead of Luis Robert and you got two young superstar offensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, GradMc said: Big Daddy was getting closer and closer all game. Bat him ahead of Luis Robert and you got two young superstar offensive players. IF he can learn to lay off the bad pitches. He's a really good mistake hitter but his approach to getting mistakes is not good yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: IF he can learn to lay off the bad pitches. He's a really good mistake hitter but his approach to getting mistakes is not good yet. Next year. I truly believe he will make Yoan like jump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, 2Deep said: Next year. I truly believe he will make Yoan like jump That's what we all hope for and if he can pull it off he will be a better hitter than Moncada but he will have to take a lot more walks to get there. Has to develop sound plate discipline and patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Timmy!!! Great rebuild game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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