Dick Allen Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) If a guy is questionable getting on the White Sox roster, I really doubt anyone will eventually be too upset if he is claimed by another team. Year after year we hear about these guys who the White Sox can't keep and how they will regret it. It rarely happens. We were going to rue the day Jason Coats went to struggle with Tampa. Edited September 3, 2019 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Dick Allen said: Maybe you give him a shot based on his AAA performance, but no conclusions could be made for what anyone does this month. 15 games are vs. teams far worse than the current White Sox. It's basically extended AAA. I guess you thought of Brent Morel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Yah, I don't really get it either. I don't see the harm, other than the Sox probably don't want to carry 5 "catchers" on their 40 man next season and figured exposing Mercedes to waivers in a month or two would certainly result in a claim and losing him. How long before the Sox have to make a decision on who to expose to the Rule 5 ? Who would be the 5 catchers on the 40 ? Zavala, Collins, McCann, Mercedes so who am I forgetting ? Beef will be gone next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 My guess is Mercedes gets added to the 40 man prior to rule 5 in December. Especially with the amount of players like Skole on the 40 man who can easily be removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: How long before the Sox have to make a decision on who to expose to the Rule 5 ? Who would be the 5 catchers on the 40 ? Zavala, Collins, McCann, Mercedes so who am I forgetting ? Beef will be gone next year. Those 4 plus a FA. The Sox are not going to carry 2 catchers if one of them is Collins, essentially relegating him to backup duty. Whether that catcher is Grandal (yes, please) or a more of true backup - not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 After hearing more Hahn speak today, it’s refreshing to see someone with a voice not hold water for Hahn and the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, ChiSox59 said: Those 4 plus a FA. The Sox are not going to carry 2 catchers if one of them is Collins, essentially relegating him to backup duty. Whether that catcher is Grandal (yes, please) or a more of true backup - not sure. Sox supposedly offered Grandal a multiyear deal last year along with a few other teams but he rejected them so round and round we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Sox supposedly offered Grandal a multiyear deal last year along with a few other teams but he rejected them so round and round we go. Yah, he wanted to play for a contender. Sox will look a little closer to that next season. Still won't be easy to land him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, ChiSox59 said: Yah, he wanted to play for a contender. Sox will look a little closer to that next season. Still won't be easy to land him. I thought Grandall held out for a higher annual salary. I remember him talking about taking a shorter deal for more money per so he can help future players make what they are worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Orlando said: I thought Grandall held out for a higher annual salary. I remember him talking about taking a shorter deal for more money per so he can help future players make what they are worth There was rumors he turned down offers around 3/$60 early in the offseason. Mets were specifically mentioned. He ended up getting burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Makes sense not to call up Mercedes since Collins is up. Between regular at bats between C, 1B and DH with McCann, Collins and Abreu, there is no room for regular at bats for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Makes sense not to call up Mercedes since Collins is up. Between regular at bats between C, 1B and DH with McCann, Collins and Abreu, there is no room for regular at bats for him. Sure there is against LHP. Instead we will see Castillo and McCann both playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: Sure there is against LHP. Instead we will see Castillo and McCann both playing. Screw that. Let Collins bat against lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Makes sense not to call up Mercedes since Collins is up. Between regular at bats between C, 1B and DH with McCann, Collins and Abreu, there is no room for regular at bats for him. Not that it really matters, but what I would've liked to see is: -Castillo DFA -Collins and Mercedes up -Abreu 1B 80% of the time, DH 20% of the time -McCann C 65% of the time, bench 35% of the time (roughly the same as now) -Collins C 35% of the time, 1B 20% of the time, DH 20% of the time, bench 25% of the time -Mercedes DH 60% of the time, PH for Collins (DH/1B) vs LHP late in games This is a long-winded way of saying that there was indeed a way to get Abreu daily PAs, McCann the same amount of reps that he normally gets, Collins appearances 75% of the time, and Mercedes enough ABs where he isn't just sitting around Edited September 3, 2019 by Jose Abreu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, Orlando said: After hearing more Hahn speak today, it’s refreshing to see someone with a voice not hold water for Hahn and the Sox Teflon Rick Hahn is a pretty good handle. I’m partial to Rick Yawn myself. Short and to the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Collins in the lineup hitting 9th as the DH, Palka in RF hitting 7th, and Yolmer at 2B hitting 8th. Play Mendick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Orlando said: After hearing more Hahn speak today, it’s refreshing to see someone with a voice not hold water for Hahn and the Sox Good. There needs to be more of this. If they flop this offseason or go bargain shopping there are no more excuses. The full core outside of Vaughn will be up next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: Not that it really matters, but what I would've liked to see is: -Castillo DFA -Collins and Mercedes up -Abreu 1B 80% of the time, DH 20% of the time -McCann C 65% of the time, bench 35% of the time (roughly the same as now) -Collins C 35% of the time, 1B 20% of the time, DH 20% of the time, bench 25% of the time -Mercedes DH 60% of the time, PH for Collins (DH/1B) vs LHP late in games This is a long-winded way of saying that there was indeed a way to get Abreu daily PAs, McCann the same amount of reps that he normally gets, Collins appearances 75% of the time, and Mercedes enough ABs where he isn't just sitting around Castillo can hit the road and make room for Merced. Hasta la vista baby. Imagine the wasted money this year. Boras should send Hahn a participation trophy with real chromium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 Palka switched up his stance. Way more upright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, HoosierSox said: I would think an AL botton feeder team like Baltimore or Detroit would take him in the rule 5 and see if he can be a DH. No reason the Sox shouldn't give him a shot. He came from Baltimore originally if I'm not mistaken. I would think they already have a decent idea on what he offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Are the Sox still keeping Robert and Madrigal down because of Charlotte being in the playoffs? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: He came from Baltimore originally if I'm not mistaken. I would think they already have a decent idea on what he offers. He's got over 2000 AB's in the minors . Spent 3 years in the DSL from 2011-2013 only hit 2 HR's. 2014 looks like he played in the Domican Winter League, United League and Pecos League. 2015 finally got into A ball with Baltimore, 2016 at 23 yrs old. A and A+ in Baltimore's system. 2017 A+ and AA with Baltimore. Looks like he always played Dominican Winter ball those last 2 years to get more AB's. 2018 Sox got him and stuck him A+ probably because Collins and Zavala were ahead of him at AA. He was now 25 and still in A+. 2019 AA and AA with the Sox and he tore it up at both levels combining for a .317 .388 .581 .968 slash line and doing even better in AAA than AA mainly because of juiced ball in AAA and better hitting park than Birmingham. His defense probably held him back more than anything but in those over 2000 MiLB AB's he has a lifetime .302 batting average and the power has really come on with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Palka switched up his stance. Way more upright. He did the opposite of Collins. Still bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Is it considered uncouth to release a veteran for a September call up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Moan4Yoan said: Are the Sox still keeping Robert and Madrigal down because of Charlotte being in the playoffs? 😂 Need rest after a long season. We will see them in mid to late April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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