BackDoorBreach Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 So yeah, I think I'm all aboard the Castellanos train for RF. He hits a ton of doubles and a decent chunk could be HRs at GRF. Playing in Detroit all those years would be tough on any alley hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, greg775 said: So you say tanking works all the time? I think it's needlessly painful for fans and an excuse for organizations to make a lot of cash. I hate tanking ... sorry. I think it's un-sportsmanlike. You are supposed to try to win. Sports leagues can fix it if they want to. Just throw all non playoff teams names in to a hat and randomly pick the draft order. Stop rewarding teams that lose on purpose. But they won't do that for some reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Do you follow the NFL? Take a look at what the Dolphins are doing. Intentionally trying to lose. Teams do it for the draft picks. It doesn’t always work but if it didn’t work much of the time, why do you think teams are doing it? The Dolphins have only had one winning season in the last 10 years. Now the media says they are tanking. They are trying to go from lousy to the worst of the lousy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Moan4Yoan said: I’m pretty sure another poster called out Greg perfectly as well. He’s just trolling and gets off on people responding to his ridiculous posts. That was me, but unfortunately Greg put me on block for calling him a troll too many times so I’ll never actually get a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Moan4Yoan said: I’m pretty sure another poster called out Greg perfectly as well. He’s just trolling and gets off on people responding to his ridiculous posts. Read some of the other posts. Not everybody agrees with the tanking philosophy and not everybody likes advanced stats and the reliance on HRs nowadays. Learn some patience, dissenters. Not everybody has to agree with you. Some of us have different viewpoints, such as El Rockin. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: That was me, but unfortunately Greg put me on block for calling him a troll too many times so I’ll never actually get a response. You were right. He definitely knows what he’s doing. No one could be that clueless. 😂 Edited September 22, 2019 by Moan4Yoan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, greg775 said: Read some of the other posts. Not everybody agrees with the tanking philosophy and not everybody likes advanced stats and the reliance on HRs nowadays. Learn some patience, dissenters. Not everybody has to agree with you. Some of us have different viewpoints, such as El Rockin. And what is your suggested alternative? The Sox were absolutely mediocre for years. Do 82 win seasons and no playoffs give you a chub? It wasn’t happening with the Sox old strategy. They may actually have a chance now. How could you be upset with that? Edited September 22, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Moan4Yoan said: And what is your suggested alternative? The Sox were absolutely mediocre for years. Do 82 win seasons and no playoffs get your hard? It wasn’t happening with the Sox strategy. They may actually have a chance now. How could you be upset with that? Just.Win.Baby. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, greg775 said: Read some of the other posts. Not everybody agrees with the tanking philosophy and not everybody likes advanced stats and the reliance on HRs nowadays. Learn some patience, dissenters. Not everybody has to agree with you. Some of us have different viewpoints, such as El Rockin. Not everyone likes the reliance on homers? Wow. You had better watch other games than the Sox. Why the F do you think the Twins are leading the division? Jeebus man... Edited September 22, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I don’t know why, but I feel like the Sox are going to trade Collins and Fulmer for Mazara this offseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: I don’t know why, but I feel like the Sox are going to trade Collins and Fulmer for Mazara this offseason That'll make for a horrendous corner OF defensively. Robert better be ready to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: I don’t know why, but I feel like the Sox are going to trade Collins and Fulmer for Mazara this offseason I think that they're going to trade for Mazara as well but I think they're going to trade one of Rutherford, Gonzalez, or Basabe and Fulmer for him. Edited September 22, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Is there some injury or other concern that is preventing Collins from catching every game ? If not, perhaps the Sox are contemplating a possible trade that could involve Collins and they don't want him to either prove beyond any doubt that he sucks or injure himself before the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: I think that they're going to trade for Mazara as well but I think they're going to trade one of Rutherford, Gonzalez, or Basabe and Fulmer for him. If that’s all he costs, by all means do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: I don’t know why, but I feel like the Sox are going to trade Collins and Fulmer for Mazara this offseason That's a big no from me. We still don't know what Collins can be and he's young enough. We don't have any other legitimate catching prospects in the minors. He has a good offensive skill set that can be built on. Fulmer or some of those OF prospects we have for Mazara fine. But I wouldn't wan't him penciled in as our starting RF. He just hasn't shown any progress really in the 3 or 4 seasons he's been up. Edited September 22, 2019 by BackDoorBreach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: That's a big no from me. We still don't know what Collins can be and he's young enough. We don't have any other legitimate catching prospects in the minors. He has a good offensive skill set that can be built on. Fulmer or some of those OF prospects we have for Mazara fine. But I wouldn't wan't him penciled in as our starting RF. He just hasn't shown any progress really in the 3 or 4 seasons he's been up. I'm a little surprised at the lack of excitement about Collins. He's the 10th pick of Round One for gosh sakes. Our scouts thought he was worthy of that and I'd assume a huge bonus. Play the guy ... and play him a lot next year. If he's a huge bust, somebody in scouting should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Play the guy ... and play him a lot next year. If he's a huge bust, somebody in scouting should be fired. Too late, Hostetler has already been promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 8 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: I don’t know why, but I feel like the Sox are going to trade Collins and Fulmer for Mazara this offseason I’d be pretty pissed as Mazara hasn’t been good, only has two years of control left (with Boras as his agent), and doesn’t address our OBP problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 6 hours ago, greg775 said: I'm a little surprised at the lack of excitement about Collins. He's the 10th pick of Round One for gosh sakes. Our scouts thought he was worthy of that and I'd assume a huge bonus. Play the guy ... and play him a lot next year. If he's a huge bust, somebody in scouting should be fired. 🍖 ⚾️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: 🍖 ⚾️ 👹 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I am still intrigued by Gregory Polanco as a bounce back candidate. I bet Pittsburgh non-tenders him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, Timmy U said: I am still intrigued by Gregory Polanco as a bounce back candidate. I bet Pittsburgh non-tenders him. Polanco was already signed to an extension. https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/national-league-central/pittsburgh-pirates/ Gregory Polanco lf 5 years/$35M (2017-21), plus 2022-23 option 5 years/$35M (2017-21), plus 2022-23 club option signed extension with Pittsburgh 4/5/16 $3M signing bonus 17:$1M, 18:$3.5M, 19:$5.5M, 20:$8M, 21:$11M, 22:$12.5M club option ($3M buyout), 23:$13.5M club option ($1M buyout) price of 2022-23 options may increase by $2M each with escalators based on performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 If Pittsburgh were to fire Huntington, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the GM come in and blow things up a bit. And honestly, they’d probably give away Polanco for a song. For me, I’d rather roll the dice on him than Mazara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 50 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If Pittsburgh were to fire Huntington, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the GM come in and blow things up a bit. And honestly, they’d probably give away Polanco for a song. For me, I’d rather roll the dice on him than Mazara. A $23 million overall commitment (for at least the next two years) is nothing for Polanco, compared to how we allocated money this offseason. If he’s a stud, you have him under control for two more seasons through the heart of the contention window. Of course, it’s the White Sox, so trading Lopez, Fulmer or Collins for Mazara seems 10x more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 22, 2019 Author Share Posted September 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: A $23 million overall commitment (for at least the next two years) is nothing for Polanco, compared to how we allocated money this offseason. If he’s a stud, you have him under control for two more seasons through the heart of the contention window. Of course, it’s the White Sox, so trading Lopez, Fulmer or Collins for Mazara seems 10x more likely. I'd roll the dice on Polanco as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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