caulfield12 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 among rookies. Yordan Alvarez snuck all the way up to 3rd. https://www.mlb.com/news/ranking-2019-rookies-by-potential-and-future-value?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I wouldn't really say Alvarez "snuck in". Those are video game numbers. The fact he is behind Fat Guerro Jr is atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BackDoorBreach said: I wouldn't really say Alvarez "snuck in". Those are video game numbers. The fact he is behind Fat Guerro Jr is atrocious. Obviously, Guerrero and Jimenez benefited from past accolades and residual preseason hype. Tatis should have been #1 in terms of overall impact, except for the question mark about his ability to stay on the field. Alvarez suffered (it seems) due to playing on such a dominant team that he tends to get overshadowed, even with video game numbers (not unlike Abreu in his rookie season). It is somewhat interesting that 3 of the top 4 were hitters who get the majority of their value from offense, vs. defense/speed/baserunning in an environment where WAR numbers tend to be over-amplified. Edited September 17, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Yordan Alvarez looks like he's going to be the 2nd or 3rd best LHH in the league after his 77 games played. If there was a draft today I'm taking him over Tatis Jr. The dude has almost an 1,100 OPS and 25 bombs in his first 77 big league games. He is Eloy on steroids and elevation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, BackDoorBreach said: If there was a draft today I'm taking him over Tatis Jr. I wouldn't go that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) He had a minor league slash line (cumulatively) of 1.184. 100 points below that so far at the big league level. Not sure how sustainable 32.4 versus a defensive value of -7.6 is going to work out as a 1B/DH. (This is the area where Jack Parkman has consistently criticized the selection of Vaughn.) Tatis, Jr., ended up at 3.6 fWAR with 7 more games played. Expect a ton of improvement in his age 21 season from a net -1.8 defensive rating, because most of those were on throws that shouldn't have been made or trying to force DP's instead of taking easy outs, and that's the easier thing to clean up when compared to bad habits or simply issues with fielding the ball/soft hands. PS: Poor Dodgers, it might be one of many reasons they don't win the World Series (yet again.) https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/How-Yordan-Alvarez-became-an-Astro-14073735.php Edited September 17, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 59 minutes ago, SoxAce said: I wouldn't go that far. Dude, I don't make crazy claims on this board. Look at what he is doing. He is on pace for like 53 HR's in his rookie season at age 22. I am taking him all day everyday over Tatis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, BackDoorBreach said: Dude, I don't make crazy claims on this board. Look at what he is doing. He is on pace for like 53 HR's in his rookie season at age 22. I am taking him all day everyday over Tatis I would take Tatis who is on pace for 43 HR, hits for a high average and is 2 years younger. A shortstop adds much more value than a DH. Tatis also is a threat on the bases. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Sign Cease,Robert,Madrigal and Vaughn to Eloy like long term contracts. Offer Kopech the same. If one or two flame out, it would still be smart. Edited September 17, 2019 by zisk content Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 8 hours ago, caulfield12 said: He had a minor league slash line (cumulatively) of 1.184. 100 points below that so far at the big league level. Not sure how sustainable 32.4 versus a defensive value of -7.6 is going to work out as a 1B/DH. (This is the area where Jack Parkman has consistently criticized the selection of Vaughn.) Tatis, Jr., ended up at 3.6 fWAR with 7 more games played. Expect a ton of improvement in his age 21 season from a net -1.8 defensive rating, because most of those were on throws that shouldn't have been made or trying to force DP's instead of taking easy outs, and that's the easier thing to clean up when compared to bad habits or simply issues with fielding the ball/soft hands. PS: Poor Dodgers, it might be one of many reasons they don't win the World Series (yet again.) https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/How-Yordan-Alvarez-became-an-Astro-14073735.php This is just like the Tatis trade. Traded for Josh Fields (the reliever version) LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 5 hours ago, zisk said: Sign Cease,Robert,Madrigal and Vaughn to Eloy like long term contracts. Offer Kopech the same. If one or two flame out, it would still be smart. Saw some Internet chatter today that due to the fact Kopech removed some tweet, there is fear he had some arm regression. If that just BS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 2 hours ago, sox71 said: Saw some Internet chatter today that due to the fact Kopech removed some tweet, there is fear he had some arm regression. If that just BS? If so, at least he has all winter to work thru it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 7 hours ago, sox71 said: Saw some Internet chatter today that due to the fact Kopech removed some tweet, there is fear he had some arm regression. If that just BS? It seemed to be people panicking over a whole lot of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Pretty crazy rookie class this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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