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My realistic offseason:

sign stratsburg ( 370M / 4 years )

sign Rendon ( 422M / 8 years )

sign Wheeler for ( 217M / 5 years )

sign Grandal ( 145M / 3 years )

trade Fernando Tatis JR. from San Diego for Mookie Betts to our Sox.

... Lineup ...

CF - Robert

2B - Moncada

RF - Betts

LF - Eloy

3B - Rendon

1B - Abreu

C - Grandal 

SS - Anderson

DH - Madrigal

 

SP1 - Stratsburg

SP2 - Giolito

SP3 - Wheeler

SP4 - Cease

SP5 - Lopez / Kopech

*Important note... make each contract above be for $1.00 a year for the first two years and then in 2023 file for bankruptcy protection*

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22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I know I shouldn’t let this happen, but comments like this make believe some real shit is going to happen.

Yeah, for now this is just Boras correctly doing the marketing for his clients.

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9 minutes ago, hi8is said:

My realistic offseason:

sign stratsburg ( 370M / 4 years )

sign Rendon ( 422M / 8 years )

sign Wheeler for ( 217M / 5 years )

sign Grandal ( 145M / 3 years )

trade Fernando Tatis JR. from San Diego for Mookie Betts to our Sox.

... Lineup ...

CF - Robert

2B - Moncada

RF - Betts

LF - Eloy

3B - Rendon

1B - Abreu

C - Grandal 

SS - Anderson

DH - Madrigal

 

SP1 - Stratsburg

SP2 - Giolito

SP3 - Wheeler

SP4 - Cease

SP5 - Lopez / Kopech

*Important note... make each contract above be for $1.00 a year for the first two years and then in 2023 file for bankruptcy protection*

I dunno if Rendon is gonna give us a discount.

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30 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Don’t get your hopes up. You’re setting yourself up to be disappointed again. I learned my lesson.

I can’t help but want to be optimistic, even after the betrayal which was last offseason. 

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21 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

Yeah, for now this is just Boras correctly doing the marketing for his clients.

No doubt, but even feeling used by Boras gets me excited for some reason.

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44 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I know I shouldn’t let this happen, but comments like this make believe some real shit is going to happen.

I've barely been active here for a couple months because I'm trying to avoid a repeat of last offseason. But I'm sort of with you, all the buzz this week is bringing me back. Not expecting Cole/Stras/Rendon types, but cautiously optimistic that the money will be spent. 

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If this is true and signings actually happen by the end of the calendar year (roughly), that would be fantastic.

 

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3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

If this is true and signings actually happen by the end of the calendar year (roughly), that would be fantastic.

 

Man it would be nice to get some things done earlier then normal 

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17 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

I've barely been active here for a couple months because I'm trying to avoid a repeat of last offseason. But I'm sort of with you, all the buzz this week is bringing me back. Not expecting Cole/Stras/Rendon types, but cautiously optimistic that the money will be spent. 

I feel the same exact way, although a very small part of me feels like the Sox will make a run at one of the big three.  Definitely not banking on that though.

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Bores gave his clients permission to consider Chicago. The more the merrier.

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7 hours ago, turnin' two said:

 

He should have thought of that before he couldn't stay healthy enough to pitch, ever.  

Don't mess with Ashley she will hunt you down on Twitter. 

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32 minutes ago, aeichhor said:

Man it would be nice to get some things done earlier then normal 

It will happen. There are a lot of teams that want to sign guys unlike last year. The market is robust this year. 

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6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Hard to really trust anything Boras says pertaining to negotiations and signings. 

The piece about how the sox are viewed was interesting and not necessary.

If your job was to leverage the most money out of roughly 18-20 teams (collectively, that would be willing to bid on at least one frontline Boras talent) for each one of your clients...what would you do differently?

 

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53 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Hard to really trust anything Boras says pertaining to negotiations and signings. 

The piece about how the sox are viewed was interesting and not necessary.

As @caulfield12 just pointed out Boras' comments are meaningless.   I'll believe the Sox will sign a A list FA when it happens.

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6 hours ago, Lillian said:

Do you really think that it makes sense to sign 3 position players? I think that Rendon and a LH bat (Moose, or Grandal) would be sufficient. Then spend the money on pitching

I do yes

Jerry has the money to spend but won’t 

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Based on all of Hahn’s recent comments, here’s what I’m thinking they do:

  • Wheeler - 5/$105M
  • Grandal - 4/$72M
  • Abreu - 2/$28M
  • Gonzalez - 1/$7M
  • Smoak - 1/$5M
  • Collins, Stiever, & Walker for Haniger
  • Rutherford & Flores for Mychel Givens

Here’s how the roster would look:

  1. Robert, CF
  2. Moncada, 3B#
  3. Haniger, RF
  4. Grandal, C#
  5. Jimenez, LF
  6. Abreu, 1B
  7. Smoak, DH*
  8. Anderson, SS
  9. Madrigal, 2B
  • Bench: Mendick, Engel, Garcia#, McCann
  1. Giolito
  2. Wheeler
  3. Cease
  4. Lopez
  5. Gonzalez*
  6. Kopech
  7. Rodon*
  • Bullpen: Colome, Bummer*, Givens, Herrera, Fry*, Marshall, Cordero, Hamilton

That’s a legit playoff caliber team IMO and payroll should be around $130M which is more than doable.

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8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Based on all of Hahn’s recent comments, here’s what I’m thinking they do:

  • Wheeler - 5/$105M
  • Grandal - 4/$72M
  • Abreu - 2/$28M
  • Gonzalez - 1/$7M
  • Smoak - 1/$5M
  • Collins, Stiever, & Walker for Haniger
  • Rutherford & Flores for Mychel Givens

Here’s how the roster would look:

  1. Robert, CF
  2. Moncada, 3B#
  3. Haniger, RF
  4. Grandal, C#
  5. Jimenez, LF
  6. Abreu, 1B
  7. Smoak, DH*
  8. Anderson, SS
  9. Madrigal, 2B
  • Bench: Mendick, Engel, Garcia#, McCann
  1. Giolito
  2. Wheeler
  3. Cease
  4. Lopez
  5. Gonzalez*
  6. Kopech
  7. Rodon*
  • Bullpen: Colome, Bummer*, Givens, Herrera, Fry*, Marshall, Cordero, Hamilton

That’s a legit playoff caliber team IMO and payroll should be around $130M which is more than doable.

I would agree that $130, which is a 50% jump,  is very realistic.  I think Haniger is somewhat a risk but his value is down because of it. 

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Castellanos- 4/66M

Wheeler- 5/110M

Hector Rondon- 2/12M

 

Trade with Rockies: Steiver, Rutherford and Sheets for Daniel Murphy and Jon Gray 

 

CF- Robert

3B- Moncada

RF- Castellanos 

1B- Abreu

LF- Eloy

DH- Murphy

SS- TA

C- McCann

2B- Madrigal 

 

Gio

Wheeler

Cease

Gray

Lopez/Kopech

 

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A Realistic Offseason should include Rule 5 candidates, and the list is out.  Yankees have two really good prospects on their list, Florial and Gil.  I would take Gil in a heartbeat and stick him in the bullpen for 2020.  This makes a lot more sense than the slugs the Sox had in 2019 bullpen.  The names are too numerous to mention.

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Teams still have time to protect players

13 minutes ago, oldsox said:

A Realistic Offseason should include Rule 5 candidates, and the list is out.  Yankees have two really good prospects on their list, Florial and Gil.  I would take Gil in a heartbeat and stick him in the bullpen for 2020.  This makes a lot more sense than the slugs the Sox had in 2019 bullpen.  The names are too numerous to mention.

 

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So we all are making offseasons of a top pitcher and top hitter.  Which would be ideal.  But would people HATE a SP heavy offseason?  I mean, would you really hate something like this:

 

Wheeler - 5 years 115 million 

Ryu - 4 years 70 million

Delin Betances - 3 years 20 million

Encanacion - 1 year 12 million

Kole Calhoun - 1 year 7 million

Matt Wieters - 1 year 5 million

Abrue accepts QO

 

All hitters are 1 year deals.  Encarnacion is still a fantastic hitter but otherwise we are going into the season hoping Moncada, Eloy, Anderson, Robert, Madrigal and Abreu all produce at the same level or better essentially, which is risky.  We really upgraded the pitching a ton.  This is an offseason I could still get behind despite not getting Grandal or Castellanos or a different bigger name.

 

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