hi8is Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I love Madrigal and would have no problem trading him for Mookie... as long as we happily sign him to a 10 / 350M extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Would taking Price lower or raise the price on Betts, and would it be worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Hopefully all it takes is Collins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dam8610 said: Would taking Price lower or raise the price on Betts, and would it be worth it? Now that's an interesting idea. Why not use the financial flexibility to help acquire Betts, without having to lose Madrigal, or Vaughn. Chaim Bloom really needs to shed some payroll, and Price is a good place to start. My question is, could Price reasonably be expected to at least contribute to the starting rotation? Just to refresh everyone's memory, Price is owed :$32M annually, for the 3 remaining years of his contract.. Edited November 16, 2019 by Lillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Lillian said: Now that's an interesting idea. Why not use the financial flexibility to help acquire Betts, without having to lose Madrigal, or Vaughn. Chaim Bloom really needs to shed some payroll, and Price is a good place to start. My question is, could Price reasonably be expected to at least contribute to the starting rotation? Just to refresh everyone's memory, Price is owed :$32M annually, for the 3 remaining years of his contract.. A 4.28 era with 107 innings pitched. Gives up more than 1 hit per inning. 96 million to have a one year rental. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 They better not send a core prospect like Madigral out unless Betts comes signed (which wont happen). I have this nightmare thing in my head where we send Madigral to them. He becomes a star. Then Betts signs back with Boston next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, BackDoorBreach said: You would have to ask Boston permission to negotiate an extension before trading for him and be prepared to offfer him over 330 million dollars. I don't touch it if it's just a 1 year deal. When is the last time this has happened in MLB? Honest question. It’s been awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: When is the last time this has happened in MLB? Honest question. It’s been awhile. RH literally said that teams don't really do that any more. The acquiring team doesn't want to be forced to give the player an insane contract to make sure he signs without testing the market, and the team sending the player out doesn't want the deal to fall apart if the guy can't be extended - Boston's fanbase knowing they got stuck with Betts because the White Sox couldn't extend him? Not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: When is the last time this has happened in MLB? Honest question. It’s been awhile. It's rare but it does happen. They have to get under the tax allegedly and nobody is just going to help them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Here's my crazy idea: Contingent on a 72 hour negotiation window in which Betts must sign a long term extension. White Sox get: RF Mookie Betts SP David Price $30 million Red Sox get: SP Carlos Rodon Any 4 prospects from the White Sox farm not named Luis Robert, Nick Madrigal, Andrew Vaughn, or Michael Kopech. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dam8610 said: Here's my crazy idea: Contingent on a 72 hour negotiation window in which Betts must sign a long term extension. White Sox get: RF Mookie Betts SP David Price $30 million Red Sox get: SP Carlos Rodon Any 4 prospects from the White Sox farm not named Luis Robert, Nick Madrigal, Andrew Vaughn, or Michael Kopech. Thoughts? Depends on how much of a sure thing the Red Sox think Rodon will be in returning to form and staying there. I’d be willing to include Madrigal if they included Beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, hi8is said: Depends on how much of a sure thing the Red Sox think Rodon will be in returning to form and staying there. I’d be willing to include Madrigal if they included Beer. Wut Edited November 16, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Wut #tankForBeer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 #tradeForBeer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, hi8is said: #tankForBeer He's with Arizona..before that he was with Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, hi8is said: #tankForBeer 21 minutes ago, hi8is said: #tradeForBeer I'm familiar...but he isn't with the Red Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: I'm familiar...but he isn't with the Red Sox. Shows how much attention I’ve been paying lately 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, BackDoorBreach said: It's rare but it does happen. They have to get under the tax allegedly and nobody is just going to help them. I had the same question for both JDM and Betts. Rickboy is the king of kontracts. People are dreaming with Betts. Rule 1 with the FA clerics is not resigning with the team that brung you to the dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just now, ChiSox59 said: When is the last time this has happened in MLB? Honest question. It’s been awhile. Maybe Verlander? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I'd try to put an acceptable package together that didn't include our top 4-5 prospects then take the risk of resigning him. Even if he bolts after a year, he'll energize the team and have a lasting positive impact on the youngsters. My guess is if we can get him here, we'll find a way to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Flash said: I'd try to put an acceptable package together that didn't include our top 4-5 prospects then take the risk of resigning him. Even if he bolts after a year, he'll energize the team and have a lasting positive impact on the youngsters. My guess is if we can get him here, we'll find a way to keep him. It's not worth it if you don't get him long term. That's trading assets for nothing. No extension, no deal. He can be had for just money next year if Boston asks too much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJSOX Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 No I wouldn't trade anyone for Betts, I'd wait till next yr an sign him if I really wanted him. I might reconsider at the trade deadline if we looked like we would win the division but still wouldn't give up much to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 He should cost about 3 times what Hahn paid for Samardzija. If they make a trade like this, then I'll know for sure that Hahn's not serious about winning; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 17 hours ago, GreenSox said: He should cost about 3 times what Hahn paid for Samardzija. If they make a trade like this, then I'll know for sure that Hahn's not serious about winning; Betts is awesome, but I'm not sure I can see teams parting with significant assets for one season of control at $28 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 All depends on the significant assets. Personally, I would try to put an acceptable package together sans Madrigal, Kopech and Robert and try to resign him, ala Cards/Goldschmidt. No reason to believe he won't be happy here as long as he gets paid. To me, other than Wheeler, Betts would be the biggest needle mover towards competitiveness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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