chetkincaid Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I'm bored. Would you guys send Madrigal and Carlos Rodon to Boston for Mookie Betts if Betts agreed to the same 8/$250 contract that Machado turned down last year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, chetkincaid said: I'm bored. Would you guys send Madrigal and Carlos Rodon to Boston for Mookie Betts if Betts agreed to the same 8/$250 contract that Machado turned down last year? Uh, yeah? That would be an absolute fleecing by Hahn though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Is Chaim Bloom concussed in this scenario? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 23 hours ago, chetkincaid said: I'm bored. Would you guys send Madrigal and Carlos Rodon to Boston for Mookie Betts if Betts agreed to the same 8/$250 contract that Machado turned down last year? No...but Rodon and Sanchez would get it done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, poppysox said: No...but Rodon and Sanchez would get it done. Cmon man. Stop with this spamming nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 3:08 PM, chetkincaid said: I'm bored. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Cmon man. Stop with this spamming nonsense. What kind of fool would give Betts the same money as Machado and throw in two quality players as well? That's who is spamming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, poppysox said: What kind of fool would give Betts the same money as Machado and throw in two quality players as well? That's who is spamming. I certainly would and doubt Boston would allow it. Edited November 15, 2019 by hi8is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, hi8is said: I certainly would and doubt Boston would allow it. You can't have it both ways. Last year you pro Machado guys said his skillset and age were a rare once in a lifetime/generational opportunity to acquire Machado at the astronomical cost of 300 million. One team stepped up and paid the price. Less than one year later you guys find another generational player but this time your conclusion is he's worth 300 million plus two quality players. Thank God RH has a little more self control than some of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, poppysox said: You can't have it both ways. Last year you pro Machado guys said his skillset and age were a rare once in a lifetime/generational opportunity to acquire Machado at the astronomical cost of 300 million. One team stepped up and paid the price. Less than one year later you guys find another generational player but this time your conclusion is he's worth 300 million plus two quality players. Thank God RH has a little more self control than some of you. I think they failed unbelievably bad with Machado/Harper. They absolutely should have acquired one or both. Machado would have been a slam dunk for this team. I have no problem going after Betts even harder. The w'Sox are not going to be a top team with waht they have. They need to make a big add at some point likely in both OF and SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, poppysox said: You can't have it both ways. Last year you pro Machado guys said his skillset and age were a rare once in a lifetime/generational opportunity to acquire Machado at the astronomical cost of 300 million. One team stepped up and paid the price. Less than one year later you guys find another generational player but this time your conclusion is he's worth 300 million plus two quality players. Thank God RH has a little more self control than some of you. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, poppysox said: What kind of fool would give Betts the same money as Machado and throw in two quality players as well? That's who is spamming. Sanchez is getting non-tendered and the last thing in the world the Red Sox would right now is an overpaid utility player. I get your Mr Optimism and this board could certainly use some of that, but your post was straight up ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: I think they failed unbelievably bad with Machado/Harper. They absolutely should have acquired one or both. Machado would have been a slam dunk for this team. I have no problem going after Betts even harder. The w'Sox are not going to be a top team with waht they have. They need to make a big add at some point likely in both OF and SP. I agree with your assessment of our needs (SP & RF) in addition to DH and RP. Simply don't believe in overpay to the same extent some of you would. I am not advocating cheep...just prudent. Giving up 300 million plus two quality players for one player is an astronomical drain on resources. Wheeler, Ryu, Grandal and Pederson would be my way to spend money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, poppysox said: Wheeler, Ryu, Grandal and Pederson would be my way to spend money. I'm starting to come around to the idea of something like : Wheeler, Ryu, Grandal, Castellanos. Not a huge fan of Pederson. But that would be a very interesting offseason. A lot of timebombs there with Ryu and Wheelers deals possibly blowing up in our faces, but I'd at least consider that an A offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: I'm starting to come around to the idea of something like : Wheeler, Ryu, Grandal, Castellanos. Not a huge fan of Pederson. But that would be a very interesting offseason. A lot of timebombs there with Ryu and Wheelers deals possibly blowing up in our faces, but I'd at least consider that an A offseason. Four players whoever they are spreads the risk. RF is definitely the position I am most at sea about. As you know...every player talked about has some glaring weakness. A one year rental of Pederson would cost a body of some sort...Castellanos looks to have some defensive issues...Calhoun is thought to be lack luster signing...and the guy I mentioned this morning Tsutsoga is anyone's guess. I kind of think RH is liable to pull a name we haven't talked about...after all...that's what he gets paid to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, poppysox said: Four players whoever they are spreads the risk. RF is definitely the position I am most at sea about. As you know...every player talked about has some glaring weakness. A one year rental of Pederson would cost a body of some sort...Castellanos looks to have some defensive issues...Calhoun is thought to be lack luster signing...and the guy I mentioned this morning Tsutsoga is anyone's guess. I kind of think RH is liable to pull a name we haven't talked about...after all...that's what he gets paid to do. My prediction is he trades for Dylan Carlson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Jerksticks said: My prediction is he trades for Dylan Carlson. Untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, poppysox said: What kind of fool would give Betts the same money as Machado and throw in two quality players as well? That's who is spamming. There is zero percent chance that Boston would trade Betts, one of the very best players in the game - even if only for a year - for a guy that is going to be nontendered and a guy that has 2 years of control but will miss the majority of 1 season with TJS. To suggest otherwise is just plain silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: My prediction is he trades for Dylan Carlson. He would be great but probably like Madrigal is for us (almost untouchable). He's my kind of player with moderate power / hits for ave / good glove / speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Does anyone know the Sox payroll total is for 2020 as of now factoring in Abreu’s contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrad Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: My prediction is he trades for Dylan Carlson. Zero chance they get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Does anyone know the Sox payroll total is for 2020 as of now factoring in Abreu’s contract? It's low 70's I think. I BELIEVE it was 53 million after arb and before Abreu, projected obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: It's low 70's I think. I BELIEVE it was 53 million after arb and before Abreu, projected obviously. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Rodon and Sanchez for Betts... I made some similar types of trades back in the day on Ken Griffey Jr's Slugfest. Mike Caruso for half the Cleveland Indians roster. Done deal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Does anyone know the Sox payroll total is for 2020 as of now factoring in Abreu’s contract? 3 hours ago, BackDoorBreach said: It's low 70's I think. I BELIEVE it was 53 million after arb and before Abreu, projected obviously. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/ https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/payroll/ As of this moment, their active payroll stands just shy of 48M. If every player was tendered a contract at their estimated totals (except Goins since he already elected free agency so I cut him out) and including Yonder's 1M buyout, the payroll would come out to just over 64.5M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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