Tonight's game showed why Abreu can't be our 1st baseman

[ron883 976]

Gurriel made multiple picks that Jose Abreu misses, 100%. The White Sox want to start contending next year. There is absolutely no reason to play a horrible fielder at 1st base when you can DH him. Having a guy who can't make a pick to save his life is demoralizing for the pitchers and infielders.

 

Sox need to say screw it to the loyalty BS and stick Jose's ass in the DH spot. Ideally he goes to DH next season. If he is still the 1st baseman after next season, then we have HUGE issues. 

[Eminor3rd 544]

Someone please add to the megathread, I don’t think I can. 

[kitekrazy 121]

Even Stevie Wonder could figure out the author of this thread.

Tonight also showed why Covey can't be on the pitching staff.

 

[ron883 976]

^^If only Abreu could defend 1st base even 1/50th as well as the Abreu worshippers defend him

[Good Guys 17]

I love Abreu but he is not good defensively.  He, Eloy, and Tim Anderson's inability to cut down on errors may always prevent the Sox from being good defensively.

Edited October 31 by Good Guys

[ChiSoxJon 89]

An issue, yes

But the least of this team's worries right now

[Good Guys 17]

7 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said:

An issue, yes

But the least of this team's worries right now

Apparently every night is a good night to attack Abreu.

[Good Guys 17]

These days I guess the average joe could hit 33 out and drive in 123.

[ChiSoxJon 89]

43 minutes ago, Good Guys said:

Apparently every night is a good night to attack Abreu.

Don't get it

Been the only consistently good Sox in a miserable era

Pay the man

Edited October 31 by ChiSoxJon

[wegner 420]

I don't disagree that Abreu is not a good defensive 1B, but let me get this straight...the reason Abreu should not play 1st is because the 1B of the losing team in the World Series plays great defense?

[Thad Bosley 440]

9 hours ago, ron883 said:

Gurriel made multiple picks that Jose Abreu misses, 100%. The White Sox want to start contending next year. There is absolutely no reason to play a horrible fielder at 1st base when you can DH him. Having a guy who can't make a pick to save his life is demoralizing for the pitchers and infielders.

 

Sox need to say screw it to the loyalty BS and stick Jose's ass in the DH spot. Ideally he goes to DH next season. If he is still the 1st baseman after next season, then we have HUGE issues. 

[ron883 976]

6 hours ago, ChiSoxJon said:

Don't get it

Been the only consistently good Sox in a miserable era

Pay the man

Terrible way to look at it. Pay him for what he will be, not what he has done. 

[ChiSoxJon 89]

30 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Terrible way to look at it. Pay him for what he will be, not what he has done. 

His career high in RBIs as well as a strong all around season bodes well for him to continue to produce at a similar level for 2-3 more years Chief

[turnin' two 502]

[bubba phillips 157]

What am I missing here?  The post attacked Abreu's total lack of fielding ability and that he should be the DH only.  His offensive numbers  were not attacked so they don't need to be defended.

[poppysox 678]

8 hours ago, ron883 said:

Terrible way to look at it. Pay him for what he will be, not what he has done. 

I think RH may let the other teams set the value of Jose.  He's good...but not 20 million per yr good.

[TaylorStSox 589]

1 hour ago, bubba phillips said:

What am I missing here? 

You can't be serious, can you? 

[poppysox 678]

10 hours ago, ron883 said:

Terrible way to look at it. Pay him for what he will be, not what he has done. 

Good philosophy but not how the actual system works.  

[ron883 976]

5 hours ago, bubba phillips said:

What am I missing here?  The post attacked Abreu's total lack of fielding ability and that he should be the DH only.  His offensive numbers  were not attacked so they don't need to be defended.

Exactly. I would be happy with him as DH, just not 1B

[tray 81]

This is almost a moot point for a couple of reasons that everyone knows -

Abreu has stated he wants to play here in a more sincere way than many free agents do. He appears to really mean it.

Jerry Reinsdorf has indicated he would like him to remain on the WS and he looks like he means it.

Abreu is admired by players and most fans for his humble, business-like approach.

He can hit and maybe will see better pitches in an improved 2020 line-up.

I predict that re-signing Abreu will be one of the first major things the Sox do in the off-season.

[ChiSoxJon 89]

22 minutes ago, tray said:

This is almost a moot point for a couple of reasons that everyone knows -

Abreu has stated he wants to play here in a more sincere way than many free agents do. He appears to really mean it.

Jerry Reinsdorf has indicated he would like him to remain on the WS and he looks like he means it.

Abreu is admired by players and most fans for his humble, business-like approach.

He can hit and maybe will see better pitches in an improved 2020 line-up.

I predict that re-signing Abreu will be one of the first major things the Sox do in the off-season.

I predict that you're right

[zisk 83]

Vaughn already is a solid defensive 1B. He'll be the starter there by 2021. Give Collins 60-70 starts at 1B in 2020. See if he can play

there as a solid back up.  An awful lot of things will have to go right to compete in 2020. 2021 we could be a World Series contender.

 

[greg775 621]

On 10/30/2019 at 11:11 PM, ron883 said:

Sox need to say screw it to the loyalty BS and stick Jose's ass in the DH spot.

I'd personally love to see your passion criticizing other areas of the team/organization. Just pay Jose between 13 and 16 million a year for 2 years with a third year option of some kind and get the offseason going. 

[kitekrazy 121]

On 10/31/2019 at 6:48 AM, ron883 said:

Terrible way to look at it. Pay him for what he will be, not what he has done. 

Said no agent ever.

[kitekrazy 121]

22 hours ago, ron883 said:

Exactly. I would be happy with him as DH, just not 1B

We only need to hear it a 1000 more times.   Ron just doesn't think anyone is listening.