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1 minute ago, Eloy Jiménez said:

I'm becoming less and less concerned about TJ history in general. It's a serious operation but it's so routine now.

And also if they haven't had one yet it's ALSO concerning (see chris sale)

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Obviously the 31yr old with a proven history of pitching good/great seasons. Plus postseason experience is just a plus. If your going to throw $20+ million dollars at a pitcher you might as well go after the whales instead of settling for a guy that may not have hit his potential. Doing that more times than not bites you back big time. Wheeler is not worth 20+ a season

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5 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said:

I'm pretty sure it was only Greg who thought that. 

It was only me cause I thought he resembled Manny Sanguillen and Carlton Fisk in terms of height. I think Timmy's BA at that time wasn't near what it was last year and I said his stats would be excellent for a catcher. People were furious and it might have been why I got suspended 6 months. I forget but it mita been the Tim thing as people thought I was trolling rather than my brain working overtime.

i have no take on today's trade, just hoping he's a stud for us. I do think it would be logical to trade McCann for a reliever now and let Collins learn from and back up Grandal.

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10 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

+100.  I was skipping down the halls, surrounded by twins fans.  

Oh I can imagine, definitely a good day for the two of us!  Hopefully Wheeler is next!

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31 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

Wheeler had TJ 3 years ago. Not that two are impossible but isn't it less likely? @ptatc

It is less likely. The replacement is really strong,  but it can happen. Jace Fry for example.

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Daniel Hudson's another guy who has had a really long/extended career despite having two operations.

The biggest point is that even two surgeries for starting pitchers is no longer a death sentence, like it used to be a decade or so ago (I think Chris Capuano was one of the first, but he wasn't a classic stuff guy, either).

But it's also a risk.   The success rate is 80%ish for one surgery and closer to 60% for two, from everything available online.

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14 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Oh I can imagine, definitely a good day for the two of us!  Hopefully Wheeler is next!

I gotta give it to @Chicago White Sox for nailing the Sox top 2 targets this winter. Bravo. 

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1 hour ago, Gtrams42 said:

I don’t get the love for Wheeler. To me he’s like that girl you ask out to prom after your 1st  two options kindly tell you nah. Especially for a 29 yr old with TJ history. 

He's basically poor man's Cole.  100mph, 2+ pitches and he's going to be cheaper.

 

2nd half of 2018 he was one of the best pitchers in baseball. I think he can get there again.

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26 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I gotta give it to @Chicago White Sox for nailing the Sox top 2 targets this winter. Bravo. 

Thanks Jack...just got to hope Wheeler is next!  There is still plenty of work to be done, but Grandal is a fantastic fucking start given it’s still November.

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

How many times will Puig’s name come up in the next 4 months?

The Cuban Connection is strong with us, Mandalorian...

depends how many times you mention him.

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

How many times will Puig’s name come up in the next 4 months?

The Cuban Connection is strong with us, Mandalorian...

We are aiming WAY higher than Puig.  You will not be willing this one into existence.

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Puig keeps getting brought up, but I think that idea just sucks. He isn't that good. Not much else to it. Maybe Caulfield thinks "swagger" is vital to a championship team. 

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"I don't know why this was a priority, they already had McCann and Collins" is a confusing take in comments I read on these articles but it's an efficient way to tell people to not waste your time talking to.

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8 hours ago, Gtrams42 said:

I’d be okay with Wheeler if he’s under 20 million. Then get Marte for RF in a trade 

Marte would be a phenomenal addition. How much would that cost in trade capital?

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I would start off at Rutherford, Zeby, and Hansen. Don’t know if that’s too much or little. The game idea of Marte and Robert covering 2/3 of the OF is pretty exciting 

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3 minutes ago, Gtrams42 said:

I would start off at Rutherford, Zeby, and Hansen. Don’t know if that’s too much or little. The game idea of Marte and Robert covering 2/3 of the OF is pretty exciting 

That’s way too little.  Zavala & Hansen have very little value and don’t think Blake is a headliner caliber prospect for a guy like Marte.

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35 minutes ago, oneofthemikes said:

Marte would be a phenomenal addition. How much would that cost in trade capital?

He's going to be pretty expensive prospect wise.

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