Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Lillian said: Having opted out of his 4 year, $100 Million contract with the Nats, and given all of the other big market teams looking for pitching, what do you think it would take to sign him? Whatever that number is, it would almost certainly be something way out of character, for Mr. Reinsdorf, especially for a 32 year old pitcher. Nevertheless, we can dream. 6 for 180 seems about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: 6 for 180 seems about right. The $30 Million AAV sounds about right, but that 6TH year would be a tough pill to swallow. That would be for his age 37 season. 5 years, $150 Million would be pretty intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lillian said: The $30 Million AAV sounds about right, but that 6TH year would be a tough pill to swallow. That would be for his age 37 season. 5 years, $150 Million would be pretty intriguing. I'm pretty sure the top offer to Strasburg is going to be for 5 years in the $150-165M range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Would you rather sign Wheeler for 5 years at $105M, or Strasburg for 5 years at $155M? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, SoxBlanco said: Would you rather sign Wheeler for 5 years at $105M, or Strasburg for 5 years at $155M? Strasburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: I'm pretty sure the top offer to Strasburg is going to be for 5 years in the $150-165M range. I'd lean toward Strasburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, SoxBlanco said: Would you rather sign Wheeler for 5 years at $105M, or Strasburg for 5 years at $155M? Strasburg and it's not even close. Who would choose Wheeler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Strasburg and it's not even close. Who would choose Wheeler? Someone who thinks Wheeler is just taking off as a dominant pitcher and wants to save $10M per year for a guy who has 700 fewer innings on his arm. I’m not saying I’d prefer Wheeler, but I don’t think it’s a crazy question. Edited November 27, 2019 by SoxBlanco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Strasburg at those contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Strasburg. Agreed. I just don't think Strasburg is going to settle for a 5/$150M deal right now. Maybe in late February if need be, but not right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Strasburg. ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 https://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/white-sox-a-dark-horse-to-sign-stephen-strasburg-602098.html Sox are a “dark house” for Strasburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, SkokieSox said: https://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/white-sox-a-dark-horse-to-sign-stephen-strasburg-602098.html Sox are a “dark house” for Strasburg. It’s quoting Morosi. I hope they show interest. He’s a hell of a pitcher. It was be a stratospheric move for this franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 22 hours ago, SoxBlanco said: Would you rather sign Wheeler for 5 years at $105M, or Strasburg for 5 years at $155M? Sign them both and you are really well covered.🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) They're planting that out there to pressure Wheeler to close the deal. Knowing JR isn't gonna fork out 180-200m for a pitcher already in his 30s, the agent will call our bluff and say sure please explore strasburg all you like. We are gonna wait for the Twins offer and if you want to "move on" to Ryu, Bumgarner etc. you can if you like. Edited November 28, 2019 by SoCalChiSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 One thing last offseason taught me: Put a time limit on your contract offers. Give Wheeler a week to decide, then move on to your option number two before you miss out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 23 hours ago, SoxBlanco said: Would you rather sign Wheeler for 5 years at $105M, or Strasburg for 5 years at $155M? Wheeler. Especially after the mileage on Stras this year. Wouldnt be shocked if he struggled a bit next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Saw a recent tweet by James that said Sox aren’t in on Strasburg https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesFox917/status/1199908880412823552 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, black jack said: One thing last offseason taught me: Put a time limit on your contract offers. Give Wheeler a week to decide, then move on to your option number two before you miss out. The problem with that, as I have noted above, is that the agent can easily call the Sox bluff on that. Wheeler is a more attractive option than Ryu (injuries, age, Boras) and Bumgarner (profiles poorly in GRF, mileage) and agents know we aren't gonna cut off our nose to spite our face. Wheeler has the leverage to force the Sox to both keep bidding against themselves and to wait as well. They know we aren't gonna shell out money for the top two choices and they know there's a sizeable gap between 3 and 4/5 and they know the fanbase is ready to tear into the club for losing out on Wheeler because of Abreu's foolhardy extension. Wheeler's agent has Hahn's sensitive parts in a blender with his index finger on the start button. They are gonna squeeze out every dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Wheeler. Especially after the mileage on Stras this year. Wouldnt be shocked if he struggled a bit next year. 100%. This is the first year he pitched over 200 innings since 2014, and that was his only other time doing so. He pitched 245 innings this year. I don't like his mileage and injury history, especially coming off a year where he pitched his most innings ever, by far. Give me Wheeler over Strasburg. Gives flexibility to sign others. Strasburg blowing his arm out at 30m AAV is more devastating than Wheeler being a #4 pitcher at 20m a year. I think those are both plausible, bad scenarios for each pitcher. Obviously Wheeler could get hurt, but I think Strasburg is more injury prone. Edited November 28, 2019 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, black jack said: One thing last offseason taught me: Put a time limit on your contract offers. Give Wheeler a week to decide, then move on to your option number two before you miss out. That's good for the fans, but not for the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, ron883 said: 100%. This is the first year he pitcher over 200 innings since 2014, and that was his only other time doing so. He pitcher 245 innings this year. I don't like his mileage and injury history, especially coming off a year where he pitched his most innings ever, by far. Give me Wheeler over Strasburg. Gives flexibility to sign others. Strasburg blowing his arm out at 30m AAV is more devastating than Wheeler being a #4 pitcher at 20m a year. I think those are both worse case scenarios for each pitcher. Obviously Wheeler could get hurt, but I think Strasburg is more injury prone. 245 These high inning post seasons historically have had a pretty significant impact on starters the following year - not everyone has been a victim of it, but enough have been to be concerned. Especially given his history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, fathom said: Saw a recent tweet by James that said Sox aren’t in on Strasburg https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesFox917/status/1199908880412823552 He’s a great poster but I doubt he would have that level of knowledge. I think he was just using common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, SkokieSox said: https://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/white-sox-a-dark-horse-to-sign-stephen-strasburg-602098.html Sox are a “dark house” for Strasburg. Strasburg would use the Sox for leverage and leave them at the altar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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