JDM staying in Boston

[skooch]

Ahhh, Bumgarner. I can't wait to see the clubhouse with him and TA7 in it after the first bat flip. Tension so thick, you can cut it with a knife!

[bmags]

47 minutes ago, skooch said:

Ahhh, Bumgarner. I can't wait to see the clubhouse with him and TA7 in it after the first bat flip. Tension so thick, you can cut it with a knife!

I really think this is overrated. Bum just hates getting showed up, but also defends his teammates no matter what.

[pcq]

On 11/1/2019 at 8:48 AM, BackDoorBreach said:

We need a DH that hits and gets on.  Grandal does not hit near enough for me if it was between JDM or Grandal.  JDM's bat just plays so much better.

Our track record of bringing in hitters might scare off some people. 

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, aeichhor said:

 

While just Stone’s opinion, those are the names to pursue if the big three are off the table.

[Chicago White Sox]

1 minute ago, pcq said:

Our track record of bringing in hitters might scare off some people. 

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[YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES!]

When does JD have to decide whether or not he’s opting out? Monday?

[TheFutureIsNear]

Little game...you get 15 points to spend for the major signings of the off season, take your pick 

 

Cole(12), Strasburg(12), Wheeler(5), Bum(5), Ryu(5), Ordorizzi(3) , Keuchel(3), Pineda(2), Hamels(2), Roark(2)

 

Rendon(12), JDM(5) or Grandal(5)

 

Ozuna(4), Castellanos(4), Moustakas(3), Encarnacion (3), Puig(2), Dickerson(2), Gardner(2)

Will Smith(4), Will Harris(2), Daniel Hudson(2), Betances(2)

 

[Balta1701]

5 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Little game...you get 15 points to spend for the major signings of the off season, take your pick 

 

Cole(12), Strasburg(12), Wheeler(5), Bum(5), Ryu(5), Ordorizzi(3) , Keuchel(3), Pineda(2), Hamels(2), Roark(2)

 

Rendon(12), JDM(5) or Grandal(5)

 

Ozuna(4), Castellanos(4), Moustakas(3), Encarnacion (3), Puig(2), Dickerson(2), Gardner(2)


Will Smith(4), Will Harris(2), Daniel Hudson(2), Betances(2)

 

I am aware of all the reasons why we will not do this. Cole + Moustakas. 

[SonofaRoache]

44 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

When does JD have to decide whether or not he’s opting out? Monday?

Yep. We will know between now and Tuesday. He's probably talking to the Sox now though back channels to see if it is worth it. 

[SoxBlanco]

33 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Little game...you get 15 points to spend for the major signings of the off season, take your pick 

 

Cole(12), Strasburg(12), Wheeler(5), Bum(5), Ryu(5), Ordorizzi(3) , Keuchel(3), Pineda(2), Hamels(2), Roark(2)

 

Rendon(12), JDM(5) or Grandal(5)

 

Ozuna(4), Castellanos(4), Moustakas(3), Encarnacion (3), Puig(2), Dickerson(2), Gardner(2)

Will Smith(4), Will Harris(2), Daniel Hudson(2), Betances(2)

 

Bumgarner, Wheeler, Dickerson, and Encarnacion. Then Vaughn takes over for Abreu at 1B in 2021, and Abreu replaces Encarnacion as the DH. Also, sign Betts to replace Dickerson in 2021.

(This is not my actual plan...just my plan for the sake of this exercise.)

[Boopa1219]

Think it’s possible for the Sox and Boston to work out a sign &trade for JDM?

Doing this will allow the Sox to keep their first round pick. And Boston could get some (filler)prospects/cash/salary relief coming back to them. 

Edited November 3, 2019 by Joshua Strong

[wrathofhahn]

No thanks. Signing JDM at this point wouldn't be correcting a mistake it would just be doubling down on it.

He probably has 2 years of elite production left and wants a 4 year deal. The Redsox got all the value out of his last contract. Time to move on

[poppysox]

8 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said:

Think it’s possible for the Sox and Boston to work out a sign &trade for JDM?

Doing this will allow the Sox to keep their first round pick. And Boston could get some (filler)prospects/cash/salary relief coming back to them. 

2nd round pick.

[Dick Allen]

10 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said:

Think it’s possible for the Sox and Boston to work out a sign &trade for JDM?

Doing this will allow the Sox to keep their first round pick. And Boston could get some (filler)prospects/cash/salary relief coming back to them. 

 No sign and trades in MLB.

[Boopa1219]

6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

 No sign and trades in MLB.

You can’t trade draft picks either and the Nationals got Trea Turner almost ASAP after he was drafted 

[Sarava]

45 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

 No sign and trades in MLB.

I think he worded that wrong. The only way the Sox would trade for JD is if he doesn't opt out - in which case, he's already signed. And as we discussed before, the Sox might prefer something like this. It would probably be a lesser dollar commitment required that signing him if he opts out. Just don't give up any of our top 7 or 8 prospects for him and I'm fine.

[Eminor3rd]

53 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said:

You can’t trade draft picks either and the Nationals got Trea Turner almost ASAP after he was drafted 

They closed that loophole 

[Sarava]

My gut says he doesn't opt out. He has until tomorrow. I think if he was opting out, he would of done it already (as some Boras guys already have like Strasburg). Boras and JD might worry that he doesn't even get the $62.5 mil he is owed out on the free agent market. That or maybe he doesn't want to play for the teams that likely would offer him a good contract (like the Sox?).

[caulfield12]

There aren’t many teams that can afford the services of J.D. Martinez. First off, he isn’t as good in the outfield as he is as an everyday American League DH. That means a lot of the National League teams will be out in the Martinez sweepstakes. The Chicago White Sox have been a team that has been rumored to be a fit. But, would Martinez want to go to a rebuilding team in the middle of his prime? My guess is probably not. If J.D. is smart, he’ll realize the options are limited and the Red Sox will continue to look better and better to come back to in 2020. He knows how talented the Red Sox are: Chris Sale, David Price, Eduardo Rodriguez, Xander Bogaerts, Rafael Devers, Andrew Benintendi…do I need to go on? This Red Sox team is extremely talented on paper and can make a run in 2020 if all goes well. Why J.D. Martinez would want to take a gamble on another team at this point is beyond me. You have all of this talent surrounding you and then, you would go to another team and start over again? That doesn’t make a lot of sense. Martinez knows how good this team can be, just look at 2018. Imagine how upset Martinez would be going from a potential 100 win team to a 70-80 win team? Yikes!

https://www.believeinbostonsports.com/2019/10/31/will-j-d-martinez-opt-in-or-out/

 

[SonofaRoache]

52 minutes ago, Sarava said:

My gut says he doesn't opt out. He has until tomorrow. I think if he was opting out, he would of done it already (as some Boras guys already have like Strasburg). Boras and JD might worry that he doesn't even get the $62.5 mil he is owed out on the free agent market. That or maybe he doesn't want to play for the teams that likely would offer him a good contract (like the Sox?).

Well he is probably learning about his market right now and seeing if it is worth it to opt out. If he doesn't we go to plan B. I'd try to get Stras and Grandal. 

Edited November 3, 2019 by SonofaRoache

[Sarava]

4 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

Well he is probably learning about his market right now and seeing if it is worth it to opt out. He he doesn't we go to plan B. I'd try to get Stras and Grandal. 

I'd love that. I'd just be shocked if Strasburg actually leaves the Nats. I don't think we should look at that as anything but highly unlikely (like less than a 1% chance).

[SonofaRoache]

36 minutes ago, Sarava said:

I'd love that. I'd just be shocked if Strasburg actually leaves the Nats. I don't think we should look at that as anything but highly unlikely (like less than a 1% chance).

Stras is a strong Nats lean, real strong. But money does talk. We will see if Steve Stone is right about the main guys opting out and us being on top of them. Will we be surprised like Sox mouth piece Stone says? 

[SoxBlanco]

57 minutes ago, Sarava said:

My gut says he doesn't opt out. He has until tomorrow. I think if he was opting out, he would of done it already (as some Boras guys already have like Strasburg). Boras and JD might worry that he doesn't even get the $62.5 mil he is owed out on the free agent market. That or maybe he doesn't want to play for the teams that likely would offer him a good contract (like the Sox?).

Strasburg only had 3 days to decide. JDM has 5. That’s why he is taking longer. 

[GradMc]

These guys have a limited window to set themselves up for the rest of lives. Few (if any) choose championship potential over cold hard cash.

Had P.T. Barnum 2.0 offered Manny and/or Bryce the most money, they would be playing for us.

The same will true for any other FA that is or will be out there.

I'd love to see Cole and Stras come in and anchor this pitching staff. What a breath-taking starting rotation that could be. 

Alas, I have no faith he will ever treat this team as the major market powerhouse it should have always been. 

Barnum 2.0 is not a sportsman.

He's an egotistical businessman who gets off on owning sports teams and has determined how to make boatloads of cash without being remotely competitive. 

The Jordan era set him up for life - given the Bulls haven't been to the Finals in 20 years.  It may another 20 years before they get there again as elite NBA difference makers  avoid playing for Reinsdorf en masse.

His schtick is the circus of sporting events which distracts from the reality on the field/court.

And he is not the only owner that utilizes this paradigm. He does excel at it though.

And to his many apologists, I was a Sox/Bulls fan before him and will be one after him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2019 by GradMc

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

There aren’t many teams that can afford the services of J.D. Martinez. First off, he isn’t as good in the outfield as he is as an everyday American League DH. That means a lot of the National League teams will be out in the Martinez sweepstakes. The Chicago White Sox have been a team that has been rumored to be a fit. But, would Martinez want to go to a rebuilding team in the middle of his prime? My guess is probably not. If J.D. is smart, he’ll realize the options are limited and the Red Sox will continue to look better and better to come back to in 2020. He knows how talented the Red Sox are: Chris Sale, David Price, Eduardo Rodriguez, Xander Bogaerts, Rafael Devers, Andrew Benintendi…do I need to go on? This Red Sox team is extremely talented on paper and can make a run in 2020 if all goes well. Why J.D. Martinez would want to take a gamble on another team at this point is beyond me. You have all of this talent surrounding you and then, you would go to another team and start over again? That doesn’t make a lot of sense. Martinez knows how good this team can be, just look at 2018. Imagine how upset Martinez would be going from a potential 100 win team to a 70-80 win team? Yikes!

https://www.believeinbostonsports.com/2019/10/31/will-j-d-martinez-opt-in-or-out/

 

This is just some Red Sox blogger’s opinion and means absolutely nothing.