poppysox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, fathom said: You must have never seen Charlotte I'm most intrigued by Jirschele and everyone thinks Vizquel is heir apparent. So I guess Grudzilanek is least interesting of the 3 primary managers I was thinking about. However...a 15 year major leaguer probably understands the game pretty well. It seems everytime we send a player down to AAA they come back playing a little better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, fathom said: You must have never seen Charlotte Getz not only hustles he is a great bunter. Baseball executive not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, pcq said: Getz not only hustles he is a great bunter. Baseball executive not so much. It's not like the Royals' system produced much from the time he was there...after that run of Top 3-5 draft picks, it has been about as productive as the White Sox system before the rebuild (or current status). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 14 hours ago, bmags said: Do you realize that two playoff teams had smaller payrolls than the white Sox did last year? Great, that doesn't change my point even one iota. Now if I had said that Hahn would be the best GM in baseball if he had a larger payroll to deal with, then sure, what you said would be considered a counter-point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 7 hours ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Great, that doesn't change my point even one iota. Now if I had said that Hahn would be the best GM in baseball if he had a larger payroll to deal with, then sure, what you said would be considered a counter-point. You uh, said he would thrive. But I suppose that may mean just his personal health and not the results of the team. Also I just pointed out that two teams that spent less than Hahn in a rebuilding year where he wasn't trying to compete made the playoffs. I could have brought up that both teams that won his division sported payrolls less than Hahn has had during his "competing" years. And I'm sure instead of hiring personnel from the teams that can operate well on smaller budgets, one of 29 other teams will approach hahn to hire him, recognizing that he is just one of those execs that can't operate on a smaller budget but will thrive on a bigger one, but still wouldn't be the best GM in baseball. It's a pretty compelling case to hire him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 That last part, obviously, is the whole ballgame, and Hahn was the first to say, when Manny Machado opted to spend the next decade in San Diego rather than on the South Side, that it doesn't matter how close the White Sox got. They didn't get the player, and that counted as a loss. Hahn also said, though, that all this would happen again, that the White Sox would remain aggressive in their pursuit of top talent. "(Losing out on Machado) does not change the fact that we are going to once again be in this market when the time is right and hopefully, at that time, convert," Hahn said the day Machado picked the Padres over the White Sox. "The money will be spent. It might not be spent this offseason, but it will be spent at some point. This isn't money sitting around waiting to just accumulate interest. It's money trying to be deployed to put us in best position to win some championships." https://www.yahoo.com/sports/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-005040933.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 It depends on which of his two teams you are referring to. He gets an A for helping to build the Padres and a C- for his overall work with the White Sox. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 12:13 AM, aeichhor said: Astros took took 5 season to finally get back to winning and another couple more till they won the world series. Cubs went through 4 seasons of losing before getting into the playoffs. 3 and 3. And if you use 5 and 4, Rick Hahn is on year 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 12:38 AM, Quin said: He gets great extensions done. Selling the international space when they couldn't use it was genius. It's an obvious move (of immaterial financial consequence) if you are too cheap and too lazy to sign international talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Not acquiring young talent isn’t “genius” unless you can allocate resources to develop a comparative advantage in another niche area of baseball operations. What do we exceedingly well, or even above-average...as an organization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, GreenSox said: 3 and 3. And if you use 5 and 4, Rick Hahn is on year 8. Technically they tried to go for it in 15 so wasn't rebuilding tho try to go for it with more holes then Swiss cheese. They should have gone full rebuild then but somebody got a tingle in their pants thinking they had enough to go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: What do we exceedingly well, or even above-average...as an organization? Disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, hi8is said: Disappoint. Hopefully nobody connected with the Sox is dumb enough (Stone came close) to call them "fair weather" fans next season if they do disappoint in 2020...like Baker Mayfield's wife just did in CLE. Because we haven't had any fair weather to speak of for at least a decade. Imagine being called out like that when your last really good team was in the mid to late 80's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 https://670thescore.radio.com/media/podcast/inside-clubhouse In the second hour they have clips of Boras talking about sox and front office. Says that Jerry has the final stamp of approval. That money being spent still has to go through Jerry and give the yes or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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