Sleepy Harold Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, flavum said: A lot of out-of-town ignorance there, but I agree with Sherman’s overall theme of trying to get deeper. It’s time to at least crack 81-81 and be positioned for sustained playoff appearances in 2021-25. I agree with getting deeper, but there's 0 reason to only aim for the Homer Bailey/Porcello/Calhoun tier of players as a complete off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teorey23 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Orlando said: Not a huge fan of most of Joel Sherman's ideas. Dom Smith? Homer Bailey? Yuck If this were to be the WhiteSox offseason plan I would be pissed. They could sign Grandal, Wheeler, Rendon, Kuechel, Betances and trade for Starling Marte/Joc/Nimmo/Mancini and barely squeak by in the top 10 for payroll. Rick, Kenny, and mainly Jerry need to really have a stellar offseason especially after last year’s debacle otherwise, and I can only speak for myself, I lose all faith in them ever building a winner. Edited November 20, 2019 by teorey23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 hours ago, teorey23 said: If this were to be the WhiteSox offseason plan I would be pissed. They could sign Grandal, Wheeler, Rendon, Kuechel, Betances and trade for Starling Marte/Joc/Nimmo/Mancini and barely squeak by in the top 10 for payroll. Rick, Kenny, and mainly Jerry need to really have a stellar offseason especially after last year’s debacle otherwise, and I can only speak for myself, I lose all faith in them ever building a winner. Just get ready 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why wouldn’t you just suspend the players? Other forms of cheating warrant suspension, why would this be any different? Can you really suspend an entire 26 man roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Can you really suspend an entire 26 man roster? You can. Just have them serve at different times. And players brought in this off-season or who were in minors wouldn't be suspended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, teorey23 said: If this were to be the WhiteSox offseason plan I would be pissed. They could sign Grandal, Wheeler, Rendon, Kuechel, Betances and trade for Starling Marte/Joc/Nimmo/Mancini and barely squeak by in the top 10 for payroll. Rick, Kenny, and mainly Jerry need to really have a stellar offseason especially after last year’s debacle otherwise, and I can only speak for myself, I lose all faith in them ever building a winner. I'd be furious, too. The pressure's on as far as I'm concerned. This is the first offseason where there's truly no excuse not to sign premium free agents: we have clear needs, there are elite players available to fill them, we have a surplus of payroll room, and we're coming into our supposed contention window. If we don't get it done and other clubs do it's just a clear concession we're not serious. (Last offseason was damn close to "no excuse" as well, but I guess they could say it was a year or two early, and they also just got "surprised" on Machado, who they thought they had in hand. ) Edited November 20, 2019 by 35thstreetswarm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, 35thstreetswarm said: I'd be furious, too. The pressure's on as far as I'm concerned. This is the first offseason where there's truly no excuse not to sign premium free agents: we have clear needs, there are elite players available to fill them, we have a surplus of payroll room, and we're coming into our supposed contention window. If we don't get it done and other clubs do it's just a clear concession we're not serious. (Last offseason was damn close to "no excuse" as well, but I guess they could say it was a year or two early, and they also just got "surprised" on Machado, who they thought they had in hand. ) The pressure should be on to start winning. It's not on to spend money, it's not on to make trades. The only thing that matters is winning going forward. How they do it is up to them. If they don't win, then out they go. This is the season where should start to become competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: The pressure should be on to start winning. It's not on to spend money, it's not on to make trades. The only thing that matters is winning going forward. How they do it is up to them. If they don't win, then out they go. This is the season where should start to become competitive. LOL promotions and raises don't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, ptatc said: The pressure should be on to start winning. It's not on to spend money, it's not on to make trades. The only thing that matters is winning going forward. How they do it is up to them. If they don't win, then out they go. This is the season where should start to become competitive. Obviously. But it's kind of obtuse to treat (a) spending money on baseball players (whose "win" contribution can be calculated) and (b) building a winning baseball team as if they're two completely separate things. Foregoing opportunities to add multi-win players to your roster when you have the resources to do so is a bad thing to do when trying to build a winning roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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