Buehrle>Wood Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: At the point in the day where it feels unlikely to be true. I dont know whether it is or isnt, but its 1030am in San Diego and Ozuna was still in the DR last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: 6 WAR ceiling? His best season was in 2017 and he was a 5 fWAR player. 2.8 and 2.6 last 2 seasons. And the GG is meaningless. He is, at best, an average LF with a poor arm. That won't translate well to RF. I don't think anyone has an issue with the bat, but its just a question of fit. I think punting OF defense is super stupid, so that is why I am not gung-ho on the Ozuna train. I also think paying anywhere near 4/$80M for him is just going to be bad news. I'd be more receptive to the whole thing had we not resigned Abreu for 3 years for no reason. Ozuna would be a huge upgrade, but he isn't a perfect fit by any means, commits the Sox to poor OF defense for at least the next 3-4 seasons, and takes the Sox out of the running for much better RF fits next offseason. I certainly don't want them to go into 2020 with Leury as the RF, but there are options that shouldn't cost much via trade or FA that are nice 1 fits that make much more sense to me, personally. According to BaseballReference he had a 6.1 WAR season in 2017 -- two seasons ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Buehrle>Wood said: I dont know whether it is or isnt, but its 1030am in San Diego and Ozuna was still in the DR last night. Fair, always seems like shit happens before noon though. Could just be confirmation bias fro Wheeler, Grandal, Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, mqr said: At the point in the day where it feels unlikely to be true. Nope. I wouldn't expect something until 6PM Chicago time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, mqr said: Fair, always seems like shit happens before noon though. Could just be confirmation bias fro Wheeler, Grandal, Machado. I think they still would need to meet with him and his agent to go over particulars, and to talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 All this reminds me of Jermaine Dye signing in the 2004 offseason. JD could be penciled in for 2 or 3 war season and he was coming off of some "meh" seasons in Oakland still coming back from his leg injury. The big question mark from Sox fans back then was "how's his defense gonna play in RF". We all know how that ended for the Sox. Unless the Sox overpay dramatically for Ozuna, I don't see how this isn't a massive upgrade over Ryan Cordell, regardless of what Ozuna's projected WAR and batted ball exit velocity ratings are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) The plot thickens... Edited December 9, 2019 by Sleepy Harold 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: All this reminds me of Jermaine Dye signing in the 2004 offseason. JD could be penciled in for 2 or 3 war season and he was coming off of some "meh" seasons in Oakland still coming back from his leg injury. The big question mark from Sox fans back then was "how's his defense gonna play in RF". We all know how that ended for the Sox. Unless the Sox overpay dramatically for Ozuna, I don't see how this isn't a massive upgrade over Ryan Cordell, regardless of what Ozuna's projected WAR and batted ball exit velocity ratings are. It's an upgrade, but just because things worked out with Dye doesn't mean they will go the same with Ozuna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Well now I think the Ozuna stuff is bogus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: The plot thickens... So you're saying there's no baby Edited December 9, 2019 by aeichhor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: The plot thickens... Thank god. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: The plot thickens... It doesn't really thicken at all. It sounds like it just ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: The plot thickens... Actually, sounds like the plot and movie has ended. But then again, when he says he doesn't recall he is probably lying. Edited December 9, 2019 by SonofaRoache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamStance Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Looks like that should just about put an end to that rumor, but the one question I have is where the Gomez/Castillo reports came from. I doubt they outright lied about it, but has to be some truth in there? Does it matter? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 JR busy monitoring his front office via Twitter. I love this org. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Hatchetman said: JR busy monitoring his front office via Twitter. I love this org. ....what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Yeah, I think that kills it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Well now I think the Ozuna stuff is bogus Yeah, would seem odd for Jerry to come out and flat out deny it like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I’m definitely not saying the rumors are true, but why wouldn’t the Sox FO deny this until it’s a done deal? It makes zero sense for them to admit they are finalizing negotiations with a FA, and they certainly don’t owe these reporters anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: ....what? It's a joke. How else is JR hearing about Ozuna rumors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Rumor destroyed. Bad look for Frank Castillo and Hector Gómez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Sambuca said: I’m definitely not saying the rumors are true, but why wouldn’t the Sox FO deny this until it’s a done deal? It makes zero sense for them to admit they are finalizing negotiations with a FA, and they certainly don’t owe these reporters anything. He could have just said nothing instead of saying he called Hahn to make sure he wasn't senile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: The plot thickens... And as usual, the White Sox don’t do shit or miss out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mqr Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Sambuca said: I’m definitely not saying the rumors are true, but why wouldn’t the Sox FO deny this until it’s a done deal? It makes zero sense for them to admit they are finalizing negotiations with a FA, and they certainly don’t owe these reporters anything. yeah leaning towards not true, but agree with you here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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