mqr Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: For those keeping tabs at home: Grandal + Abreu + Keuchel + Gonzalez = $183M (excluding options/incentives for simplicity) Added ~$55M to 2020 payroll -> projected 10.1 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($5.45M/fWAR) Machado $30M in 2020 -> projected 4.6 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($6.52M/fWAR) This is why signing Machado never made sense. And the impact of multiple signings to fill multiple glaring holes only makes the argument stronger if you were to do a comparison versus the cheaper backup alternative (e.g., Keuchel vs Covey, Grandal vs McCann, etc). Still another ~$70M to burn so now go out and get an established DH and RP to finish this thing off. 4.6 WAR in one spot probably should be worth more than 10.1 in 4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, mqr said: 4.6 WAR in one spot probably should be worth more than 10.1 in 4... Only if they already had above replacement level players at those 4 positions, which they didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 Grandal + Abreu + Keuchel + Gonzalez + Encarnacion = $195M (excluding options/incentives for simplicity) Added ~$67M to 2020 payroll -> projected 11.6 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($5.78M/fWAR) Machado $30M in 2020 -> projected 4.6 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($6.52M/fWAR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Grandal + Abreu + Keuchel + Gonzalez + Encarnacion = $195M (excluding options/incentives for simplicity) Added ~$67M to 2020 payroll -> projected 11.6 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($5.78M/fWAR) Machado $30M in 2020 -> projected 4.6 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($6.52M/fWAR) As noted previously, the biggest change is going to be going from negative numbers to hopefully 2+ fWAR for RF. At the minimum, we're talking about a shift of 15 fWAR, if not more. Keuchel has a full spring training to get ready, and all of our hitters will have more protection in the line-up. Mazara can hit 7th/8th instead of 3-5 like he did in Texas, for example. Robert and Madrigal can start off with less pressure than they would have without the additions of Grandal and EE to take some of the focus off their rookie campaigns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted December 26, 2019 Author Share Posted December 26, 2019 Just now, caulfield12 said: As noted previously, the biggest change is going to be going from negative numbers to hopefully 2+ fWAR for RF. At the minimum, we're talking about a shift of 15 fWAR, if not more. Keuchel has a full spring training to get ready, and all of our hitters will have more protection in the line-up. Mazara can hit 7th/8th instead of 3-5 like he did in Texas, for example. Robert and Madrigal can start off with less pressure than they would have without the additions of Grandal and EE to take some of the focus off their rookie campaigns. Actually, today’s signing is the most impactful from an fWAR standpoint. Steamer projects 1.5 for EE, while CWS received -3.5 fWAR from their DHs in 2019. Massive swing in production from that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 T’was the night before Christmas, when all through Target Field Not a creature was stirring, not even a trade yield. (not exactly the best couplet in history here) The cleats were hung by the lockers with care, In hopes that David Price soon would be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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