poppysox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, zisk said: Just remember that JP will hit .217 with 12 homers for us his first year. When we trade for some one they always suck their first season. We are overdue for a huge win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, poppysox said: We are overdue for a huge win. That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, Dick Allen said: That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor. What was Jose Quintana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: What was Jose Quintana? 8 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, Dick Allen said: 8 years ago. D-daniel P-palka? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor. James McCann 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: That is true. It's about time someone comes out of nowhere and becomes a huge contributor. Bummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Joc rumors come.. We lose Manny... Joc rumors come.. We lose Wheeler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Does losing on Wheeler end our pursuit of Joc? The latter seems heavily predicated on thinking we can make the playoffs in '20, and I don't see it without a high-end SP signing or some really great prospect/youth development luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, gusguyman said: Does losing on Wheeler end our pursuit of Joc? The latter seems heavily predicated on thinking we can make the playoffs in '20, and I don't see it without a high-end SP signing or some really great prospect/youth development luck Probably. I'm thinking that they just go for someone like Puig at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I hope that the Sox get creative with problem-solving the rotation instead of throwing money at it in free agency. KennyGM, for all his faults, was pretty good at finding value in the trade market. Aside from Cole and Strasburg, the free agent pitching options aren't worth their price tags, and unfortunately, I don't know enough about the rest of the league to know who is worth what and who would be available to even speculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said: I hope that the Sox get creative with problem-solving the rotation instead of throwing money at it in free agency. KennyGM, for all his faults, was pretty good at finding value in the trade market. Aside from Cole and Strasburg, the free agent pitching options aren't worth their price tags, and unfortunately, I don't know enough about the rest of the league to know who is worth what and who would be available to even speculate. Just my guess: Ryu: 20-25M AAV on a 3-4 year deal Keuchel: 18-22M AAV on a 3 year deal Bumgarner: 20-25M AAV on a 4-5 year deal I'd pass on all of them at that price, and Ryu/Keuchel is a HARD pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 If the Sox get Joc who platoons with him? He is wretched against same handed pitchers. I'd take him, but hope the Sox don't give up someone like A-Bum for him either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, kwolf68 said: If the Sox get Joc who platoons with him? He is wretched against same handed pitchers. I'd take him, but hope the Sox don't give up someone like A-Bum for him either. Leury with some Engel sprinkled in. Both hit LHP well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: What was Jose Quintana? A huge contributor many years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Leury with some Engel sprinkled in. Both hit LHP well. I would be doing Engel with some Leury sprinkled in. Defense is better and he keeps his head in the game. Actually starting to hit a little as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I do not want to give up any assets on a one year player. However, I might deal with the Dodgers for Joc if you are allowed to find out what it would take to extend him. Maybe spread some of the Wheeler allocation that direction. Anyone know who his agent is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Casey Close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 10:59 AM, Jose Abreu said: James McCann Reading all the hating on McCann reminds me so much of all the hate on Quintana early with the Sox. I must've heard the phrase " smoke and mirrors" more in that time frame than I will hear it for the rest of my days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 On 12/4/2019 at 11:43 AM, cjgalloway said: Joc rumors come.. We lose Manny... Joc rumors come.. We lose Wheeler. Sox don't wanna wear a Joc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moan4Yoan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, aeichhor said: I like how Pollock and Joc are mentioned in the same tweet. One guy has value and the other guy has none. Who wants the remaining 3 years and $42 million dollar contract for the 32 year old outfielder who had elbow surgery last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 31 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: I like how Pollock and Joc are mentioned in the same tweet. One guy has value and the other guy has none. Who wants the remaining 3 years and $42 million dollar contract for the 32 year old outfielder who had elbow surgery last year? Last offseason people here wanted to be in on Pollock despite this team not being competitive in 2019 and despite his injury history. Think of it this way; there's a good chance the Dodgers would pay a substantial portion of his contract to clear the roster spot right now. How substantial does that have to be to interest you? If you had to trade Alec Hansen (very little value) and the Dodgers took on Herrera's deal and also added in another $14 million, effectively making the White Sox have to pay less than $20 million over 3 years for that player, would you think about it? If not, what dollar amount would you need him to be paid to take him on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Last offseason people here wanted to be in on Pollock despite this team not being competitive in 2019 and despite his injury history. Think of it this way; there's a good chance the Dodgers would pay a substantial portion of his contract to clear the roster spot right now. How substantial does that have to be to interest you? If you had to trade Alec Hansen (very little value) and the Dodgers took on Herrera's deal and also added in another $14 million, effectively making the White Sox have to pay less than $20 million over 3 years for that player, would you think about it? If not, what dollar amount would you need him to be paid to take him on? $20M over 3 years for Pollock could be worth the risk. If he stayed healthy, he'd be worth it. Big if, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Last offseason people here wanted to be in on Pollock despite this team not being competitive in 2019 and despite his injury history. Think of it this way; there's a good chance the Dodgers would pay a substantial portion of his contract to clear the roster spot right now. How substantial does that have to be to interest you? If you had to trade Alec Hansen (very little value) and the Dodgers took on Herrera's deal and also added in another $14 million, effectively making the White Sox have to pay less than $20 million over 3 years for that player, would you think about it? If not, what dollar amount would you need him to be paid to take him on? I wouldn’t be targeting aging outfielders with injury concerns so I would pass regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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