caulfield12 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 They kind of did things backwards...because we’re likely sacrificing Grandal’s best season in terms of hitting or pitch framing to a .500ish team. That said, he has one year to become familiar with the young pitchers and coaching staff. Of course, there are so few impact catchers out there this might have been the best play because next year’s market is so limited. Right now, it doesn’t seem like any team out of the Central will do anything beyond serving as a sacrificial lamb for the East and West. But that’s also the sad part, we can’t even up and seize the reigns against financially-limited organizations...or those who simply operate better in the margins such as the Rays, A’s, Twins and Indians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, reiks12 said: We arent even mentioned as checking in I wouldn't read too much into that. There is no way the Sox aren't checking in with Ryu. He may prefer to stay west coast, but teams like MN and TOR shouldn't be mentioned then either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I will say this, Hahn has exhibited patience in the GM seat so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: I will say this, Hahn has exhibited patience in the GM seat so far Patience or financially handcuffed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: I will say this, Hahn has exhibited patience in the GM seat so far One man's patience is another man's "what the fuck, will you get off your ass and spend that fucking $$ that you said was going to be spent." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Patience or financially handcuffed? Patience or in over his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) Rangers fans are on Twitter and Reddit are talking EXACTLY like Sox fans. It's pretty eerie. Edited December 12, 2019 by mqr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanJoeCrede Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, mqr said: Rangers fans are on Twitter and Reddit are talking EXACTLY like Sox fans. It's pretty eerie. My guess is every team's fans except for the Yankees, Nationals, and Angels are sounding about the same way. Even the Nationals fans are probably b****ing about not keeping Rendon and I know the Angel's fans are pissed about not getting any pitching except for Bundy. Edited December 12, 2019 by MeanJoeCrede Grammar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 its like watching your own fanbase through a different lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsak31 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Wow, everyone is acting like the off-season is over. I am disappointed with the winter meetings, but there are still plenty of impact moves through trade or free agency they can make. It is still very possible they can get a couple decent arms and another big bat to go with the Grandal acquisition, and I think we’d all be happy with that. Not saying they will, but holding judgment until the roster is complete. So....let’s hear some new rumors so I can be excited again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: its like watching your own fanbase through a different lens. Unfortunately theres not another team in Chicago worth distracting yourself with. Hopefully the Bears will prove me wrong this weekend (with the help from some other teams( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, tsak31 said: Wow, everyone is acting like the off-season is over. I am disappointed with the winter meetings, but there are still plenty of impact moves through trade or free agency they can make. It is still very possible they can get a couple decent arms and another big bat to go with the Grandal acquisition, and I think we’d all be happy with that. Not saying they will, but holding judgment until the roster is complete. So....let’s hear some new rumors so I can be excited again! Today I was in line at the grocery store and the guy in front of me told the cashier he heard Rick Hahn was going to resign as GM of the White Sox! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Hahn is all talk no action repeatedly, signing Abreu back in his mind should make everyone happy the whole winter. Yeah Rick the money will be spent over a 10 year period whoppie doo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 The money has been spent! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, SoxAce said: The money has been spent! Plus that extra sushi Hahn had the other night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, tsak31 said: Wow, everyone is acting like the off-season is over. I am disappointed with the winter meetings, but there are still plenty of impact moves through trade or free agency they can make. It is still very possible they can get a couple decent arms and another big bat to go with the Grandal acquisition, and I think we’d all be happy with that. Not saying they will, but holding judgment until the roster is complete. So....let’s hear some new rumors so I can be excited again! I have heard enough rumors during past couple of days. I would like my mind to rest. As far as any impact moves, I will only believe that when they actually happen. I certainly won't listen to this front office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Orlando said: In my opinion this is a bad take. If you are not going to go after the top tier, you have to pivot to improving where you can. You can’t build a contender without spending somewhere. Sox aren’t going to field a WS contender standing pat In my opinion the WS have not stood pat. Opening day has Grandal & Mazara and a few weeks later Robert, Madrigal and at ASB or sooner Dunning, Kopech and Rodon perhaps. If no other changes occurred I think we would be looking at roughly 84 or so wins. Two #3-5 starters and two good not great relievers push that number of wins to 90. I admit this isn't the sexy offseason we all hoped for but we're in pretty good shape even without landing a whale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, MeanJoeCrede said: My guess is every team's fans except for the Yankees, Nationals, and Angels are sounding about the same way. Even the Nationals fans are probably b****ing about not keeping Rendon and I know the Angel's fans are pissed about not getting any pitching except for Bundy. Yet. They are working on a Kluber trade and adding one of the remaining three big names as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, MeanJoeCrede said: My guess is every team's fans except for the Yankees, Nationals, and Angels are sounding about the same way. Even the Nationals fans are probably b****ing about not keeping Rendon and I know the Angel's fans are pissed about not getting any pitching except for Bundy. The dodger fans were livid about Rendon. They told their fans he didn't want to go to LA. But other parts of Orange county is fine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, poppysox said: In my opinion the WS have not stood pat. Opening day has Grandal & Mazara and a few weeks later Robert, Madrigal and at ASB or sooner Dunning, Kopech and Rodon perhaps. If no other changes occurred I think we would be looking at roughly 84 or so wins. Two #3-5 starters and two good not great relievers push that number of wins to 90. I admit this isn't the sexy offseason we all hoped for but we're in pretty good shape even without landing a whale. Kopech will start the season with MLB team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I’m sure this comment means nothing, but terrifying nonetheless: Quote Wheeler picked the Phillies, but the White Sox have moved on from their top choice and their five-year, $125 million offer. Even if they aren't committed to giving the required years and money to starters like Madison Bumgarner, Dallas Keuchel or Hyun-Jin Ryu as part of their current rebuild phase, there are other options. Those options could include trades. "Absolutely. You've seen over the years us use our financial flexibility to acquire some contracts," Hahn said. "That flexibility doesn't always have to be spent on free agents." https://www.mlb.com/breaking-news/white-sox-winter-meetings-2019-wrap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, ptatc said: Kopech will start the season with MLB team. Not based on Hahn’s messaging all offseason. What are you basing this on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, aeichhor said: Plus that extra sushi Hahn had the other night The funny thing is how much more efficiently the Brewers allocate their resources, better trades, better ROI on the pitching front, two consecutive playoff appearances, beating the Cubs, etc....meanwhile, we're spending our new t.v. contract dollars on first-class airfare and giving international bonus pool money away. Rewarding our execs for their excellence (well, Thome doesn't deserve any crap, I guess.) Referring to the idea of contract relief for other teams. What are the odds that David Price is the pitching equivalent of Alex Rios...? If we could get Rios' accumulated White Sox fWAR (obviously one season was a complete disaster, solid otherwise) out of Price, that would be a huge win. The problem is where he's on the shelf but not retired or kicking in the 70% insurance payouts. It's such a huge gamble. No team in baseball would just take on Price's contract, like we did with the Rios deal. Would almost prefer Eovaldi if they're going to choose that approach (which is still better than decimating the farm system or trading away Madrigal/Vaughn.) Edited December 13, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m sure this comment means nothing, but terrifying nonetheless: https://www.mlb.com/breaking-news/white-sox-winter-meetings-2019-wrap Why? To me that indicates they can just suck up a bad deal. Also let’s remember Sox were rumored to like Eovaldi last year. Maybe GM they take on a horrible deal with upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, bmags said: Why? To me that indicates they can just suck up a bad deal. Also let’s remember Sox were rumored to like Eovaldi last year. Maybe GM they take on a horrible deal with upside. Why is sucking up a bad deal a good thing? Trading for Eovaldi would be horrific. I’m not sure who else you have in mind though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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