NotHahn Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: What? This was for an interview. It wasnt sarcasm. The entire article makes the point pretty well. https://theathletic.com/1308014/2019/10/24/anthony-rendon-vignettes-for-thursday/ I don't have the athletic but I saw an actual video clip of the interview. I thought he was obviously joking. Besides, who is going to turn down $30+ mil a year to play baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, NotHahn said: I don't have the athletic but I saw an actual video clip of the interview. I thought he was obviously joking. Besides, who is going to turn down $30+ mil a year to play baseball? You saw a video clip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHahn Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: You saw a video clip? Yeah I saw some sort of interview with Rendon and the reporter asked him where he sees himself playing at 35 and he smirked and said retired hopefully. The reporter didn't get that he was joking. Anthony is kind of a quite guy who doesn't like to do interviews so it was a little awkward. I'm trying to find the clip but can't find it. Mabye he has discussed this before and I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickit Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Whatever happened to our seat at the table for top end talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, trickit said: Whatever happened to our seat at the table for top end talent? We had it last year and it was a privilege to be there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickit Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Well I guess after last years fiasco we lost that privilege. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, trickit said: Whatever happened to our seat at the table for top end talent? Hahn and crew were just happy to have a seat at the adult table last offseason. Back to the kiddie table for Christmas dinner this offseason... Edited December 11, 2019 by Moan4Yoan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Hahn and crew were just happy to have a seat at the adult table last offseason. Back to the kiddie table for Christmas dinner this offseason... You should just put this post in your signature - that way you won't need to repeat it in every thread. It will already be there. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Astros and Giants mystery teams? https://mobile.twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1204579033955962880 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Forget the money, would anyone actually want the Sox to offer Cole a >8 year deal? I, like many others, don't give a shit about Reinsdorf's money, but I do think that duration would be pure insanity and I'd prefer they stay away from the big boy table if that's the kind of ludicrous gambling they're up to. It's unbelievable that this is where the market has taken us. Edited December 11, 2019 by ScottyDo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, ScottyDo said: Forget the money, would anyone actually want the Sox to offer Cole a >8 year deal? I, like many others, don't give a shit about Reinsdorf's money, but I do think that duration would be pure insanity and I'd prefer they stay away from the big boy table if that's the kind of ludicrous gambling they're up to. It's unbelievable that this is where the market has taken us. Yes. It's unlikely he'd even be on the sox in the back half. This board in particular has this belief that so many contracts are unmovable. Check out what's happening with Price now. If you need to move a bad contract you can. If you need to move a bad contract that is also one of your most valuable players that you need a good return for - then you aren't in great shape. The most immovable contracts right now are mostly position players. Cabrera, pujols. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, ScottyDo said: Forget the money, would anyone actually want the Sox to offer Cole a >8 year deal? I, like many others, don't give a shit about Reinsdorf's money, but I do think that duration would be pure insanity and I'd prefer they stay away from the big boy table if that's the kind of ludicrous gambling they're up to. It's unbelievable that this is where the market has taken us. Then be prepared to sit at the kids table every October Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The Twins may be stepping up to the big person table. LOL on location part....if the money is there dude would pitch at the North Pole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RTC said: Then be prepared to sit at the kids table every October 🤷♂️ Don't see a lot of perennial contenders on that list This does kind of speak to bmags' point, though, in that only position players have ever gotten 8 year deals (aside from Kenta Maeda who signed for $25M total plus whatever posting fee, doesn't really fit the bill) and they've largely looked ugly Edited December 11, 2019 by ScottyDo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, ScottyDo said: 🤷♂️ Don't see a lot of perennial contenders on that list This does kind of speak to bmags' point, though, in that only position players have ever gotten 8 year deals (aside from Kenta Maeda who signed for $25M total plus whatever posting fee, doesn't really fit the bill) and they've largely looked ugly You’re looking at it backwards. No one is saying signing a player to a big contract is a guarantee. But what percentage of the teams that even make it to the LCS do so without taking at least one big gamble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 22 minutes ago, ScottyDo said: 🤷♂️ Don't see a lot of perennial contenders on that list The Yankees, the Dodgers, the Cubs, The Rockies, the Giants, the Braves, the Red Sox? The Phillies and Rangers on that list also have had a good number of playoff appearances even though they had a few down years. Literally it's the Mets, Reds, and Padres on that list who have guys currently signed to big deals without playoff runs to show for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The Yankees, the Dodgers, the Cubs, The Rockies, the Giants, the Braves, the Red Sox? The Phillies and Rangers on that list also have had a good number of playoff appearances even though they had a few down years. Literally it's the Mets, Reds, and Padres on that list who have guys currently signed to big deals without playoff runs to show for them. I framed my point incorrectly. I guess what I mean to say is, the hit rate on impact contracts there is way lower than you'd hope. Teams that made pushes arguably because of the above signings: BOS, SF, NYY, ATL, ?LAA?, ??TEX?? Out of 14 teams that gave out 8 year contracts. EDIT: Admittedly, the jury is still out on some of them. Still, pretty dismal results if you ask me. Edited December 11, 2019 by ScottyDo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, ScottyDo said: I framed my point incorrectly. I guess what I mean to say is, the hit rate on impact contracts there is way lower than you'd hope. Teams that made pushes arguably because of the above signings: BOS, SF, NYY, ATL, ?LAA?, ??TEX?? Out of 14 teams that gave out 8 year contracts. EDIT: Admittedly, the jury is still out on some of them. Still, pretty dismal results if you ask me. Also I just noticed that there are no pitchers on your list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Balta1701 said: Also I just noticed that there are no pitchers on your list. I literally just sorted contract by length and grabbed the first screen to make a quick point. The only pitcher to sign for 8 years is Maeda, and I would put his contract in a different category entirely. If I weren't selecting arbitrarily, I would probably admit to cherry picking. But it does bring up the point that nobody in history has felt comfortable giving a pitcher 8 years and blockbuster bucks at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Here's the list of pitchers who have signed to 6 or more year deals. The list is more palatable as bmags suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 9/324 to Yankees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, fathom said: 9/324 to Yankees Done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 9 freaking years.. man that’s crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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