chitownsportsfan Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: 7 years, 245 million. LOL what a disaster of a contract. I'm sure there's a lot of deferred money in there as the Nats love deferred money, but that is still absolutely absurd. This is the new King Felix deal except worse. He'll be lucky to be replacement level after year 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, daggins said: Will be interesting to see where Rendon ends up now. I really think Texas is going to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I'm not mad at this at all. Sox should not have paid that much. Really makes Wheeler a bargain though. And now controllable starters will ask for Robert or Madrigal at a minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, mqr said: 7 years at 35 mil seems like an awful lot for a guy who is going to turn 32 next year. 1. A guy who has had 2 seasons of 200 IP in 8 years. 2. A guy coming off the most substantial work load increase in baseball last year by a wide margin. 3. A guy with chronic injury issues. The only thing I'll say positive about Strasburg aging is that he has shown an ability to pitch without his peak stuff which does matter. That said, this contract will be an absolute abortion in 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Good for Stras for getting paid but the pitching contracts so far are insane. Not looking good for the Sox in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: This is the new King Felix deal except worse. He'll be lucky to be replacement level after year 4. Very good comp, although Felix was at least a bill of great health. Stras may be a better pitcher with lesser stuff, but that stuff is going to fall and it's going to fall quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: 1. A guy who has had 2 seasons of 200 IP in 8 years. 2. A guy coming off the most substantial work load increase in baseball last year by a wide margin. 3. A guy with chronic injury issues. The only thing I'll say positive about Strasburg aging is that he has shown an ability to pitch without his peak stuff which does matter. That said, this contract will be an absolute abortion in 3 years. Every FA pitcher just got even more expensive after Strasburg inked a 7/245 with full no trade clause. Cole is getting 8/300 with full no trade now all day. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hi8is Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Go sign Cole for 8/418 - I’m tellin ya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 What does this mean for Cole is the real question? Cole is at least 25% better than Stras over the next 7 years. He should be getting north of 300 million now. Yankees felt all good about their "all-in" Cole offer of 7 years 245 million jajaja 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, steveno89 said: Every FA pitcher just got even more expensive after Strasburg inked a 7/245 with full no trade clause. Cole is getting 8/300 with full no trade now all day. Wow. Deferrals are really important here. If 50 million of this is deferred, it's more like a 7 year, 220 million dollar present day offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Gotta wait for the annual breakdown but unless that contract is HEAVILY front-loaded, that deal is gonna be really gross in the last few years. 38-year-olds don't tend to be worth $35M/yr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, oneofthemikes said: Gotta wait for the annual breakdown but unless that contract is HEAVILY front-loaded, that deal is gonna be really gross in the last few years. 38-year-olds don't tend to be worth $35M/yr. Doesn't matter if it's front loaded or not, honestly. The way baseball does the cap distribution, front loading doesn't really help much down the road. I imagine, if anything, the Nats put a 10 year deferral in place at about 5 million per. Maybe less, but I would guess that's the only thing creative they do here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: I'm not mad at this at all. Sox should not have paid that much. Really makes Wheeler a bargain though. And now controllable starters will ask for Robert or Madrigal at a minimum Very easy then, you say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I think people wanting to blame the White Sox for not signing Stras can move on now. The Sox would be complete idiots to sign him for that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, oneofthemikes said: Gotta wait for the annual breakdown but unless that contract is HEAVILY front-loaded, that deal is gonna be really gross in the last few years. 38-year-olds don't tend to be worth $35M/yr. I mean obviously, but they signed him to the deal they had to because they wanted him to be on their team the next three years to go with their great rotation and young, cheap, great offense. Rizzo has been pretty damn incredible with contracts. He pays a lot for guys that have performed at that level. I think he deserves some patience here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, BamaDoc said: Very easy then, you say no. It's going to be nearly impossible to upgrade SP at this point. I want no part of Ryu or Keuchel at 4/100. Off to the bargain bin...... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raBBit Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, Jack Parkman said: It's going to be nearly impossible to upgrade SP at this point. I want no part of Ryu or Keuchel at 4/100. Off to the bargain bin...... Someone bookmark this one. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I think people wanting to blame the White Sox for not signing Stras can move on now. The Sox would be complete idiots to sign him for that deal. Agreed, cannot wait to watch our fiscally responsible 77 win ball club next year. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 minute ago, raBBit said: Someone bookmark this one. Bookmark so when the Sox do make a move we can say, "What an overreaction" right :)????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Cole’s price will be a product of bidding, won’t have anything to do with Stras urge other than Boras will insist on beating the 245 guaranteed number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, raBBit said: Someone bookmark this one. Ok, since you have a source, how is that a ridiculous comment? Edited December 9, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, raBBit said: Someone bookmark this one. This deal helped every FA starting pitcher's value quite a bit. Cole is going to shatter records, Ryu now look like a bargain, as do MBum and Keuchel. Sox better be ready to play ball here soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 $130 Mil for Wheeler doesn't look too bad now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Just now, HoosierSox said: $130 Mil for Wheeler doesn't look too bad now. 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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