Chicago White Sox Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Let’s say we sign EE, here are the 2019 wRC+ against RHP for our projected regulars along with their wRC+ against LHP in parentheses: Moncada = 148 (122) Anderson = 132 (124) Encarnacion = 121 (152) Jimenez = 120 (107) Grandal = 114 (138) Mazara = 110 (55) Abreu = 99 (168) Throw in Robert & Madrigal and that’s the making of a very good, balanced lineup. Everyone but Mazara and to a lesser extent Abreu should play everyday. Nomar clearly needs a platoon partner against LHP and Abreu could use some rest against tough righties. IMO, the addition of EE would make Collins a much better fit from an offensive perspective than McCann as he’d allow us to spell Abreu far more frequently with a left-handed bat. And come next year Vaughn slides into EE’s spot and hopefully you don’t miss a beat. To me, that’s a superior plan than going out and adding Castellanos on what will likely be a four year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Let’s say we sign EE, here are the 2019 wRC+ against RHP for our projected regulars along with their wRC+ against LHP in parentheses: Moncada = 148 (122) Anderson = 132 (124) Encarnacion = 121 (152) Jimenez = 120 (107) Grandal = 114 (138) Mazara = 110 (55) Abreu = 99 (168) Throw in Robert & Madrigal and that’s the making of a very good, balanced lineup. Everyone but Mazara and to a lesser extent Abreu should play everyday. Nomar clearly needs a platoon partner against LHP and Abreu could use some rest against tough righties. IMO, the addition of EE would make Collins a much better fit from an offensive perspective than McCann as he’d allow us to spell Abreu far more frequently with a left-handed bat. And come next year Vaughn slides into EE’s spot and hopefully you don’t miss a beat. To me, that’s a superior plan than going out and adding Castellanos on what will likely be a four year deal. I knew Abreu hit lefties well, but heavens to Betsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooch Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, mqr said: I knew Abreu hit lefties well, but heavens to Betsy Also interesting are his 2019 wRC+ splits against RHP: Home: 123 Away: 77 If only we could find a way to sit the man on the road against RHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, soxfan49 said: I disagree Not saying they WILL win it but I'm not sure most people think Minnesota is still the favorite IMO when the smoke clears on this offseason...the WS will be the favorite.🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 hours ago, soxfan49 said: I disagree Not saying they WILL win it but I'm not sure most people think Minnesota is still the favorite You're currently giving up money to bet the Twins. Indians are 2/1, Sox 5/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, poppysox said: IMO when the smoke clears on this offseason...the WS will be the favorite.🙂 Sox still have a long way to go towards proving they will realistically compete with the Twins. Lets say the Sox are better by ten games and the twins are worse by ten. Sox win 82-83 games and the Twins win 90-91. Still not really striking distance unless a ton goes right for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, poppysox said: IMO when the smoke clears on this offseason...the WS will be the favorite.🙂 I hope not. Usually when they are the favorite disappointment soon follows. Let the experts think they are a year or two away like 1990 and 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steveno89 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, aeichhor said: Sox have to be considered the heavy favorite to sign him at this point I would imagine. No other clear suitor currently exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 One of these is full of shit and I’m putting my money on Scott Boras 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, steveno89 said: Sox still have a long way to go towards proving they will realistically compete with the Twins. Lets say the Sox are better by ten games and the twins are worse by ten. Sox win 82-83 games and the Twins win 90-91. Still not really striking distance unless a ton goes right for us. In my opinion if you add one more bat you are better than the Twins. The Sox have turned over half the lineup and bolstered the rotation with 2 starters (3 when Kopech comes back) while Minnesota has lost a starter. You can not compare this current sox team to last years. I expect a big jump with our additions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, mqr said: One of these is full of shit and I’m putting my money on Scott Boras I still believe in my theory of Boras leak to put pressure on the Cubs. Even Passan supposedly said today he thinks Cubs are more likely for Castellanos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 OK, Encarnacion is a better hitter than Castellanos, but am I wrong to want Castellanos more because he helps us hide Mazara against LHP? If we get E, then Garcia or Engel has to play RF against RHP. McCann has no real place other than backup C. If we get Nick, then against LHP, he shifts to right and McCann serves as DH. What am I missing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flavum Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) This feels like it’s just a matter of when, not if. One year of EE sounds good to me. Edited December 23, 2019 by flavum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Sir said: OK, Encarnacion is a better hitter than Castellanos, but am I wrong to want Castellanos more because he helps us hide Mazara against LHP? If we get E, then Garcia or Engel has to play RF against RHP. McCann has no real place other than backup C. If we get Nick, then against LHP, he shifts to right and McCann serves as DH. What am I missing? Don't anyone get me wrong. If we really get E, I'll get fucking wet, but as much as I like Mazara, he needs to be hidden from LHP. At the same time, whatever. Get E and let's murder the shit out of RHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, The Sir said: Don't anyone get me wrong. If we really get E, I'll get fucking wet, but as much as I like Mazara, he needs to be hidden from LHP. At the same time, whatever. Get E and let's murder the shit out of RHP. If you get EE, the lineup is good enough to go with better D in RF with Engel or Garcia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Sign EE, put him in charge of our Dominican Academy when he retires. One year and an option...that covers for Abreu, Vaughn and Collins, but also lets us escape quickly if he quickly declines this season. Better to have too many good hitters than not enough...can always trade the excess. This makes much more sense than locking in Castellanos for four years. Hold back that money for internal extensions or Stroman/Bauer/Ray/Paxton next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, fathom said: If you get EE, the lineup is good enough to go with better D in RF with Engel or Garcia They’ll platoon Mazara and Leury and have him also back up Robert. The problem is we don’t really have anyone for 3B/SS if Leury’s primarily a OFer. You might be right about Engel, unless they go out and sign a utility guy to replace Yolmer. Can Mendick at least play 3B? Can’t imagine him at SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Sign EE, put him in charge of our Dominican Academy when he retires. One year and an option...that covers for Abreu, Vaughn and Collins, but also lets us escape quickly if he quickly declines this season. Better to have too many good hitters than not enough...can always trade the excess. This makes much more sense than locking in Castellanos for four years. Hold back that money for internal extensions or Stroman/Bauer/Ray/Paxton next year. I can get behind a 1+1 deal, ala Twins’ for Cruz, except less $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, aeichhor said: This could be the Boras plant... regardless of if he’s not the agent or not. But the guy just had his dad pass, I’d imagine he wouldn’t make a decision until it settles. Might be a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: This could be the Boras plant... regardless of if he’s not the agent or not. But the guy just had his dad pass, I’d imagine he wouldn’t make a decision until it settles. Might be a month. Why would it be a Boras plant. He's doesn't represent him Edited December 23, 2019 by aeichhor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, aeichhor said: Why would it be a Boras plant. He's doesn't represent him I was just about to say this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, fathom said: If you get EE, the lineup is good enough to go with better D in RF with Engel or Garcia No, no way. No legitimate contender has discussions in the offseason about how they will have players like Engel or Leury in RF part time. Edited December 24, 2019 by Moan4Yoan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Moan4Yoan said: No, no way. No legitimate contender has discussions in the offseason about how they will have Engel or Leury in RF part time. I’m not a fan either of Engel, but wouldn’t rule out that thought process 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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