fathom Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) There are a lot of assumptions on here about the health of the players. A few of them will surely spend time on the DL, and it’s a lot better to have the depth of actual big leaguers instead of having to use the likes of Skole. Edited December 24, 2019 by fathom 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: If we add EE, we are basically replacing Engel, Cordell, Yolmer, Alonso, and McCann with Robert, Mazara, Madrigal, Encarnacion, and Grandal. I’m not a WAR expert, but my calculations say that improves our team by about 217 wins (give or take a couple). I think it comes to a little more than that.🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, BackDoorBreach said: Leury is a super sub, he's not a straight OF. But on most nights, he will need to be counted as OF replacement for one of the corners or they will need to get a 2nd defensive OF to go with Engel. This is the downside of having too many Softball players for the corner OF spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: Sometimes you have to trade prospects when their value is at an all time high. You can't always wait until they completely bust because then you got nothing for them. If we sign EE. This would be the time to trade Collins if you can get something decent. I'd frankly prefer a prospect for prospect swap because I don't think he'd get you a major leaguer that gets you all that excited. I think the "all time high" phase for Collins is long gone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I would love to have EE and Castellanos but I would be stunned if they acquired both. To me it's one or the other and then move on to something like middle-late reliever I can’t really see us adding both. I mean, financially it’s totally doable and I guess you could still get Mazara a decent amount of playing time by spelling Castellanos, Jimenez, Abreu, & Encarnación, but you’d be making a major commitment to Nicky’s ability to play a competent RF as the DH spot would be mostly blocked going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Apologies if this was posted already... MLBExecutiveBurner @HotStoveintel · 1h Looking to free up At Bats & ... White Sox discussing James McCann with multiple teams including Rays, Reds, Angels & Rockies. At $5.4M cheaper than current asking prices of Jason Castro & Robinson Chirinos. Somewhat of a balance of those 2 players. Nothing imminent... 2 4 14 MLBExecutiveBurner @HotStoveintel · 1h Edwin Encarnacion nearing Deal w/ #WhiteSox that guarantees him in $10M+ range on 1 Yr deal potentially with ‘21 Club Option. Deal in similar format to one Twins gave Nelson Cruz last offseason w/ slightly less . Expect deal finalized today or after Christmas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLBExecutiveBurner @HotStoveintel · 1h Looking to free up At Bats & ... White Sox discussing James McCann with multiple teams including Rays, Reds, Angels & Rockies. At $5.4M cheaper than current asking prices of Jason Castro & Robinson Chirinos. Somewhat of a balance of those 2 players. Nothing imminent... 2 4 14
MLBExecutiveBurner @HotStoveintel · 1h Edwin Encarnacion nearing Deal w/ #WhiteSox that guarantees him in $10M+ range on 1 Yr deal potentially with ‘21 Club Option. Deal in similar format to one Twins gave Nelson Cruz last offseason w/ slightly less . Expect deal finalized today or after Christmas..
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Interesting. Didn't see the McCann tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Let me go take a gander at those team's prospects lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Mazara is not going to bench. If he doesn't start in a platoon option, he just gets released (which then leaves you scratching your head on why they made the trade to begin with). The Sox are not going to carry a bad defensive OF on the bench. There is zero chance they release Mazara between now and opening day short of some negative off field activity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: But on most nights, he will need to be counted as OF replacement for one of the corners or they will need to get a 2nd defensive OF to go with Engel. This is the downside of having too many Softball players for the corner OF spots. I just don't like this argument. How many times was Eloy subbed for last year? Castellanos is a bonafide MLB hitter and an upgrade from Mazara at the plate. I think it's silly to not pick a better RF because of 9th inning subs. You need to let Eloy play the field anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Apologies if this was posted already... MLBExecutiveBurner @HotStoveintel · 1h Looking to free up At Bats & ... White Sox discussing James McCann with multiple teams including Rays, Reds, Angels & Rockies. At $5.4M cheaper than current asking prices of Jason Castro & Robinson Chirinos. Somewhat of a balance of those 2 players. Nothing imminent... 2 4 14 MLBExecutiveBurner @HotStoveintel · 1h Edwin Encarnacion nearing Deal w/ #WhiteSox that guarantees him in $10M+ range on 1 Yr deal potentially with ‘21 Club Option. Deal in similar format to one Twins gave Nelson Cruz last offseason w/ slightly less . Expect deal finalized today or after Christmas.. I'll take Kevin Maitan from the Angels.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLBExecutiveBurner @HotStoveintel · 1h Looking to free up At Bats & ... White Sox discussing James McCann with multiple teams including Rays, Reds, Angels & Rockies. At $5.4M cheaper than current asking prices of Jason Castro & Robinson Chirinos. Somewhat of a balance of those 2 players. Nothing imminent... 2 4 14
MLBExecutiveBurner @HotStoveintel · 1h Edwin Encarnacion nearing Deal w/ #WhiteSox that guarantees him in $10M+ range on 1 Yr deal potentially with ‘21 Club Option. Deal in similar format to one Twins gave Nelson Cruz last offseason w/ slightly less . Expect deal finalized today or after Christmas..
SoCalChiSox Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: Let me go take a gander at those team's prospects lol Since we are now in the contention phase I'd assume we are looking for a MLB reliever or RF option....unless there is a good prospect not far from the majors. Give the Angels ReyLo, Dunning and McCann for Adell. Edited December 24, 2019 by SoCalChiSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Since we are now in the contention phase I'd assume we are looking for a MLB reliever or RF option....unless there is a good prospect not far from the majors. Give the Angels ReyLo, Dunning and McCann for Adell. I'm fine with trading for MLB ready. But, Angels would laugh in our face. Edited December 24, 2019 by cjgalloway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, cjgalloway said: I'm fine with trading for MLB ready. But, Angels would laugh in our face. Angels actually really need a C. It won't be MLB ready though if we trade with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, cjgalloway said: Angels would laugh in our face. I know...but what they've done this off-season makes little sense and they need a couple guys that can help them this year cause the GM is under some pressure. It's not realistic, but that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: Mazara is not going to bench. If he doesn't start in a platoon option, he just gets released (which then leaves you scratching your head on why they made the trade to begin with). The Sox are not going to carry a bad defensive OF on the bench. Well they could trade him. Other teams besides the Sox were in on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, cjgalloway said: Yaz is the starting catcher... but nice try. Try and follow. Yaz is not catching full time. It has been discussed here often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: I just don't like this argument. How many times was Eloy subbed for last year? Castellanos is a bonafide MLB hitter and an upgrade from Mazara at the plate. I think it's silly to not pick a better RF because of 9th inning subs. You need to let Eloy play the field anyways. The argument I'm making is that Mazara has no place on this time if you bring in Castellanos. I'm 100 fine with this, it's another no-brainer. But then the Sox have pie in their face on why they made this trade in the first place if BOTH Castellanos and Encarnacion were still considered legitimate targets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, pcq said: Try and follow. Yaz is not catching full time. It has been discussed here often. Hw will catch 120-130 games. He can DH/1B 20 and sit the other 20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 1 minute ago, HOFHurt35 said: The argument I'm making is that Mazara has no place on this time if you bring in Castellanos. I'm 100 fine with this, it's another no-brainer. But then the Sox have pie in their face on why they made this trade in the first place if BOTH Castellanos and Encarnacion were still considered legitimate targets. Lol its not really a big deal. They make the move just in case the other ones sign somewhere else. Like I said above, just make him available and deal him somewhere else. Sox weren't the only team in on him at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 With automated strike zone coming in a couple years (hopefully after we have gotten some good framing seasons from Grandal), it would be ideal to keep Collins as the backup catcher. With his swing changes, he absolutely could be .240/.370/.475. That would be awesome from the left side as a passable catcher that doesn't have to worry about framing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 59 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: But on most nights, he will need to be counted as OF replacement for one of the corners or they will need to get a 2nd defensive OF to go with Engel. This is the downside of having too many Softball players for the corner OF spots. Mendick played some OF . He's definitely a superutility type like Leury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I will go out on a limb and say EE signs today. His market is shrinking by the day and it makes a lot of sense to get the deal done before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: I will go out on a limb and say EE signs today. His market is shrinking by the day and it makes a lot of sense to get the deal done before Christmas. It’d be nice to get him locker up but I doubt it with his father just passing away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: I will go out on a limb and say EE signs today. His market is shrinking by the day and it makes a lot of sense to get the deal done before Christmas. His father's funeral is today so I kinda think this would happen Thursday or Friday if it happens this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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