gusguyman Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 23 hours ago, SouthWallace said: Most people: New Year, New Me for 4 months White Sox: New Year, New Me for 4 years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 1:26 PM, SouthWallace said: God I hope Vaughn plays in Armour Square. I'm fairly concerned Rick will trade him away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Agree 100%, but usually what they disagree on is scouts don't care as much about actual production - "don't scout the stat line, scout the tools." Robert has, arguably, the loudest tools in minor league baseball and possibly the loudest tools in the world of Professional baseball. You can get arguments about guys like Acuna and Tatis. Tatis constantly showed off the best infield arm strength in baseball last year at age 20. He also suffers from lapses in concentration and forces things because he’s so gifted he thinks he can make every play. Soto has the loudest hit tool, but not the speed. In a lot of ways, Tatis and Robert are similar in terms of height and speed. Robert is more effortless gliding...like Devon White or Alex Rios. Tatis is always hustling, and takes such huge strides...he would be Trevor Lawrence as a QB. Both those guys have a lot of swing and miss in their game, and outside breaking stuff has been a notorious weak zone for nearly every every Latin American prospect in the history of the game. Luckily, with the current Sox lineup and injection of guys like Grandal, EE, Mazara and Jimenez, there will be zero pressure for him to lead the team from Day One like there was in SD with the left side of that infield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I’ve said it before, but if you ever have the chance, get to the Sox game early and just watch Luis warmup. Just watching him run is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Eloy Jiménez said: God I hope Vaughn plays in Armour Square. I'm fairly concerned Rick will trade him away. Naw, his history suggests otherwise. Worry more about literally everyone after him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 12 hours ago, bmags said: Naw, his history suggests otherwise. Worry more about literally everyone after him. I kind of agree with Eloy...seems like a decent chance Vaughn gets moved. If they want to augment this team at some point in the next year or two, he might be the only big trade chip left that isn't on the team yet. And it's not like he's playing a position the Sox are screaming for help at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 21 hours ago, asindc said: I’m surprised that more Sox fans don’t recognize that and just assume Abreu is always getting fooled on sliders breaking away. Some would call it trying to do to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 16 hours ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: I’ve said it before, but if you ever have the chance, get to the Sox game early and just watch Luis warmup. Just watching him run is incredible. I had the exact opposite reaction when I saw Eloy jog out to left field last year in Spring Training - very awkward stride when he runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asindc Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 9 hours ago, poppysox said: Some would call it trying to do to much. They would be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 9 hours ago, poppysox said: Some would call it trying to do to much. It’s always been his weakness. I don’t see it changing as he gets older and worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: It’s always been his weakness. I don’t see it changing as he gets older and worse. I don't know...this lineup should make anyone realize the guy behind you can pick you up. Batting Jose 4 through 6 would quite possibly help as well. With this lineup the concept of pitching around someone is a lot less likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drwhoo1 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Sarava said: I kind of agree with Eloy...seems like a decent chance Vaughn gets moved. If they want to augment this team at some point in the next year or two, he might be the only big trade chip left that isn't on the team yet. And it's not like he's playing a position the Sox are screaming for help at. Who we have at his position? He will be needed. It’s crazy to trade him. We should be able to get a couple bullpen a couple pieces from our minor league system soon. We have other players to use if we want to augment this team. Trading Vaughn would just create another hole in the future. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Drwhoo1 said: Who we have at his position? He will be needed. It’s crazy to trade him. We should be able to get a couple bullpen a couple pieces from our minor league system soon. We have other players to use if we want to augment this team. Trading Vaughn would just create another hole in the future. Like it or not, Jose Abreu was just re-signed for 3 years. I didn't say they have a long-term solution there. But it's not like CF or 2B (if Robert or Madigral were traded), where suddenly you have nobody to play the position. As for crazy - here's where people get confused. You suggest someone might get traded, and they act like you're giving him up for nothing and that you gave up on the guy. That obviously is not the case. You would never move a guy like Vaughn unless something seriously big was coming back. What if some team falters the first two months, decides to do somewhat of a rebuild, and offers a juicy young controllable pitcher and they want Vaughn back headlining the deal? All I'm saying is the Sox might think long and hard about something like that. I could see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I dont see the urgency in trading Vaughn just yet. EE is signed to 1 year and Abreu will most definitely move to DH in a year or 2. Vaughn is not blocked and will probably be up next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Still so excited for this move that I bought a Robert Jersey last night. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Sox fans deserve for Robert to come in and light the world on fire. We haven't had anyone do that since...well as long as I can remember. Edited January 6, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Sox fans deserve for Robert to come in and light the world on fire. We haven't had anyone do that since Maggs. Abreu did that. So did Quentin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Abreu did that. So did Quentin You're right. And I was wrong, Maggs didn't do it. I just thought he did. Abreu and Quentin were also older prospects. Quentin was 25 and Abreu was 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamStance Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 this reads like a poorly written high school paper https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2020/1/6/21050706/luis-robert-white-sox-contract-extension-milb-prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, DurhamStance said: this reads like a poorly written high school paper https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2020/1/6/21050706/luis-robert-white-sox-contract-extension-milb-prospects It says that Robert would have been offered a $240 million contract if he were a free agent, so therefore, the Sox don't get credit and are still exploitative. The Sox have committed $76M to Robert before his options have been considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, DurhamStance said: this reads like a poorly written high school paper https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2020/1/6/21050706/luis-robert-white-sox-contract-extension-milb-prospects Very strange article indeed. If Luis Robert breaks his neck tmr and is confined to a wheel chair the rest of his life he's SET. His offspring are set. His wife, his cousins, and so forth. From the players' perspective they have to work within the framework of the CBA. It's not like his agent wanted to take LESS of his cut by saving the Sox money. No, his agent did the best he could given the current CBA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan61 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 “The White Sox’ deal with Robert is similar in situation to fellow Cuban Eloy Jiménez, who also signed a slightly cheaper six-year deal with two team options before ever making a major league plate appearance.” Well researched article here, considering Eloy is Dominican 🙄 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Sox fans deserve for Robert to come in and light the world on fire. We haven't had anyone do that since...well as long as I can remember. Eloy Jimenez? 116 wRC+ and an .828 OPS may not be "lighting the world on fire", but it's quite good for a rookie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: Eloy Jimenez? 116 wRC+ and an .828 OPS may not be "lighting the world on fire", but it's quite good for a rookie Even if he did nothing else that homer to beat the Cubs is in my all-time best White Sox moments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) Yes sir, let's serve it up one more time, By the way, McCann was on with a base hit so it was a two run jack. Edited January 7, 2020 by tray 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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