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1 hour ago, poppysox said:

Looks like I have some company in the optimism department.😊

Together we can defeat the negativity of Jack Parkman....no offense Jack, I know you love the Palehose as much as anyone here 

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1 hour ago, JoshPR said:

Farquar really opened a pandoras box lol. Luhnow is an ass. Hinch the most overrated manager possible and Manfried sucks

Possible side effect: With Lunhow gone, we save minor league baseball?

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3 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said:

Which association? Ozzie or Alex? Maybe Joey Cora just didn't have what teams were looking for?

Hard to say, the same thing was said about Davey Martinez year after year when he missed out on managing jobs.

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1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said:

First overall and 11th overall.

Not 30th overall and somewhere between 25-30th overall.

BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG difference.  

If you have good scouts, it doesn't really matter. There are some late first round picks I wish we had instead of Fulmer, Burger and Collins honestly. Lump Rodon into that group as well actually.

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5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Hard to say, the same thing was said about Davey Martinez year after year when he missed out on managing jobs.

I was seriously asking your opinion.... I wonder if Ozzie is a bit of a curse. Makes sense if true. I remember Cora interviewing for Manager gigs before his brother was retired from baseball.... so its gotta be Ozzie.

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2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said:

Like I said, the Sox have never played them in the postseason before. If they do and get crushed, it will be interesting to see how the FO responds. 

The Sox can't beat the Yankees in future because they've never played them in the past? What kind of logic is that? 

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5 minutes ago, Charlie Haeger's Knuckles said:

I was seriously asking your opinion.... I wonder if Ozzie is a bit of a curse. Makes sense if true. I remember Cora interviewing for Manager gigs before his brother was retired from baseball.... so its gotta be Ozzie.

They have totally different personalities, but Cora was pretty much perceived as a sidekick and enabler in the 2009-2011 time period...and that still doesn’t sit well with many.  It’s kind of like he should have known the consequences when he hitched his wagon to Ozzie’s.  That, and some of the reports about the drinking culture and extracurricular hijinks, just don’t see it ever happening for him.

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3 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

 

 

Would have a lot more respect if he simply accepted responsibility.

The “buck stops here” as Harry Truman said.

Now the culture seems to be more one of avoiding any responsibility and hoping it goes away because the attention span of the public and news media is so short.

 

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Just now, caulfield12 said:

Would have a lot more respect if he simply accepted responsibility.

The “buck stops here” as Harry Truman said.

Now the culture seems to be more one of avoiding any responsibility and hoping it goes away because the attention span of the public and news media is so short.

 

Both of them needed to say they accept responsibility and just ended their statements.   Instead they both look like absolute jokes 

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2 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Both of them needed to say they accept responsibility and just ended their statements.   Instead they both look like absolute jokes 

And, in typical “white collar crime way,” Luhnow will get hired in a heartbeat somewhere but Hinch will never manage a big league team again.

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Just now, Moan4Yoan said:

I like how he didn’t name names but he did throw Cora under the bus — “bench coach.”

“I hardly knew that guy.  He was just referred to as ‘bench coach’ around here, and the fact he’s now managing one of our biggest rivals means that we want absolutely no harm to come to some totally random guy that I just went out of my way to pin the blame on by not directly naming him.   Well, actually, now that I’ve had time to reflect, it’s kind of AJ’s fault for hiring him in the first place.”

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Just now, caulfield12 said:

“I hardly knew that guy.  He was just referred to as ‘bench coach’ around here, and the fact he’s now managing one of our biggest rivals means that we want absolutely no harm to come to some totally random guy that I just went out of my way to pin the blame on by not directly naming him.   Well, actually, now that I’ve had time to reflect, it’s kind of AJ’s fault for hiring him in the first place.”

Alex Cora is not long for baseball.  He will be canned soon.

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35 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

And, in typical “white collar crime way,” Luhnow will get hired in a heartbeat somewhere but Hinch will never manage a big league team again.

I doubt Luhnow will work as a GM again.  If the Stros' owner is telling the truth then Luhnow violated his trust and that's going to be a problem for him regardless of how much ignorance he claims here.

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3 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

 

I'd love nothing more than this to bring down Manfred as part and parcel of the scandal but Logan is going to need some receipts.

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5 hours ago, reiks12 said:

Totally worth it, Manfred dropped the ball here. 

No kidding. This is disappointing. 

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7 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I'd love nothing more than this to bring down Manfred as part and parcel of the scandal but Logan is going to need some receipts.

Why?  Fiers didn't need receipts, he just said something and everyone started looking closely at it, and it unraveled 

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3 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Why?  Fiers didn't need receipts, he just said something and everyone started looking closely at it, and it unraveled 

Well for starters he could point to a specific game so people can start going through the tape.  But yea perhaps it's already being done. 

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