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4 minutes ago, bmags said:

I’m still very concerned about bars, night clubs and churches even with masks. The drinking and dancing makes night clubs seem impossible especially on tracing.

Id prefer they stick with the outdoor focus through sept.

I have concerns too among some of those things, but they can be addressed with capacity limits. I'd rather go that route than keep those things closed until the fall. I realize of course some places won't comply, but I am also OK with some enforcement around that against businesses that don't follow the rules. Take away a few liquor or food licenses, publicize the hell out of the enforcement, and you will get a lot of places staying in line (though not all I am sure). Churches get a little more dicey that way but I think most, other than the megachurches run by money grubbers, will stick with it.

 

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2 hours ago, greg775 said:

Maybe I'm just dense but I have never heard of Juneteenth until this year. Never. I think this talk is just more partisan politics as always. Who the heck ever talked of Juneteenth before this political season of rallies? Pardon me if it's very common; I swear on a stack of Bibles I'd never heard of it before a week or two ago. Now it's everything.

I bet if Golden Corral or Old Country Buffet celebrated, you would be a historian. 

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1 hour ago, StateStSports said:

I bet if Golden Corral or Old Country Buffet celebrated, you would be a historian. 

These three elegant choices put your two options to shame, 🙂.  But seriously, don’t they still teach Burning Kansas, The Missouri Compromise, John Brown, etc., in American History classes in US high schools?
 
 
 
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I went to University of Kansas undergrad. The Chinese buffets are decent but the people certainly are sheltered in the middle.  Many of my friends are just as foolish as Greg with feelings like we are infringing on his personal liberty by trying to protect each other. Love thy neighbor goes a long way.

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4 hours ago, StrangeSox said:

 

Cue video from late April with the mayor on Anderson Cooper already pushing a reopening in quite ignorant fashion.

 

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9 hours ago, NorthSideSox72 said:

Again... if you are in that quarter, GFY.

 

This is just another example of how we all hate each other in America. It's doomed. My guess is the violence will be the new normal. We hate each other, let's face it. (You are not going to get consensus on a topic like masks when politics rules the country 24/7).

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4 hours ago, StateStSports said:

I went to University of Kansas undergrad. The Chinese buffets are decent but the people certainly are sheltered in the middle.  Many of my friends are just as foolish as Greg with feelings like we are infringing on his personal liberty by trying to protect each other. Love thy neighbor goes a long way.

Thing is ... people won't acknowledge that mean, selfish Greg has actually been a responsible citizen. I've obeyed all government orders here. I have sheltered as much as anybody else. And I wear my mask where it's required for certain and I put it on out of respect if I see those working in the stores have theirs on. I have been a good citizen through all this. My contact with human beings has been very minute until the past week or so. I've noticed traffic is much greater now and things are opening up. Our spike will be incredible when the students come back. Douglas County has had so so so few cases so far here.

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8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

You came up with the $1 million reparations plan, but no Juneteenth?  Kwanzaa sound familiar? 

I’m not sure saying “now it’s everything” makes much sense when it has been there all along in Wyandotte County, Wichita and pockets of the KU, KSU and WSU campuses.
 

What’s shocking to me is that you weren’t paying attention to Fox News here...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/what-is-juneteenth-the-history-behind-the-oldest-commemoration-of-the-abolishment-of-slavery-in-the-us

 

 

I am 100 percent for my $1 million reparations plan. I think it would go a long ways toward making up for slavery and appeasing future riots, etc. Again ... a million bucks per family should get almost everybody on their feet and out of poverty and feel like America is truly righting a wrong. If $1 million per individual and/or family isnt' enough, I don't know what to say about that. Make the wealthiest individuals pay as much of the tax as we deem possible, then print the rest of the money and the economy deals with it later.

How come nobody is commenting on my reparations plan? Can you imagine the debates? Trump is going to be against reparations. Biden for them. Specifics, Joe? Can you imagine if he says, $5000 per family or something? That's why I say $1 million. It's indisputably fair. Anything Joe promises is going to be very very insulting folks. 2000 dollars? Cmon.

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39 minutes ago, greg775 said:

I am 100 percent for my $1 million reparations plan. I think it would go a long ways toward making up for slavery and appeasing future riots, etc. Again ... a million bucks per family should get almost everybody on their feet and out of poverty and feel like America is truly righting a wrong. If $1 million per individual and/or family isnt' enough, I don't know what to say about that. Make the wealthiest individuals pay as much of the tax as we deem possible, then print the rest of the money and the economy deals with it later.

How come nobody is commenting on my reparations plan? Can you imagine the debates? Trump is going to be against reparations. Biden for them. Specifics, Joe? Can you imagine if he says, $5000 per family or something? That's why I say $1 million. It's indisputably fair. Anything Joe promises is going to be very very insulting folks. 2000 dollars? Cmon.

 

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14 hours ago, greg775 said:

Maybe I'm just dense but I have never heard of Juneteenth until this year. Never. I think this talk is just more partisan politics as always. Who the heck ever talked of Juneteenth before this political season of rallies? Pardon me if it's very common; I swear on a stack of Bibles I'd never heard of it before a week or two ago. Now it's everything.

Well bless your heart. Your computer can only access one website and you picked ours. 

Be careful on that stack of bibles, they get stacked mighty high there in Kansas. We don't want you to fall and hit your head again. 

Anytime you want to drop the country bumpkin act it would be nice. There are some folks here that would appreciate your actual intelligent side. Perhaps make meaningful contributions to threads. 

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4 hours ago, greg775 said:

I am 100 percent for my $1 million reparations plan. I think it would go a long ways toward making up for slavery and appeasing future riots, etc. Again ... a million bucks per family should get almost everybody on their feet and out of poverty and feel like America is truly righting a wrong. If $1 million per individual and/or family isnt' enough, I don't know what to say about that. Make the wealthiest individuals pay as much of the tax as we deem possible, then print the rest of the money and the economy deals with it later.

How come nobody is commenting on my reparations plan? Can you imagine the debates? Trump is going to be against reparations. Biden for them. Specifics, Joe? Can you imagine if he says, $5000 per family or something? That's why I say $1 million. It's indisputably fair. Anything Joe promises is going to be very very insulting folks. 2000 dollars? Cmon.

I thought desperation trolling would be beneath you. Perhaps it's a sign you're bored with the Greg act, I know we are. 

Just register a new name and quietly start posting. We don't want you to go away, just the ridiculous character you've created.

 

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6 hours ago, greg775 said:

I am 100 percent for my $1 million reparations plan. I think it would go a long ways toward making up for slavery and appeasing future riots, etc. Again ... a million bucks per family should get almost everybody on their feet and out of poverty and feel like America is truly righting a wrong. If $1 million per individual and/or family isnt' enough, I don't know what to say about that. Make the wealthiest individuals pay as much of the tax as we deem possible, then print the rest of the money and the economy deals with it later.

How come nobody is commenting on my reparations plan? Can you imagine the debates? Trump is going to be against reparations. Biden for them. Specifics, Joe? Can you imagine if he says, $5000 per family or something? That's why I say $1 million. It's indisputably fair. Anything Joe promises is going to be very very insulting folks. 2000 dollars? Cmon.

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15 hours ago, NorthSideSox72 said:

I have concerns too among some of those things, but they can be addressed with capacity limits. I'd rather go that route than keep those things closed until the fall. I realize of course some places won't comply, but I am also OK with some enforcement around that against businesses that don't follow the rules. Take away a few liquor or food licenses, publicize the hell out of the enforcement, and you will get a lot of places staying in line (though not all I am sure). Churches get a little more dicey that way but I think most, other than the megachurches run by money grubbers, will stick with it.

 

I don't know that we have strong evidence that capacity limits are enough here. I'm definitely avoiding any indoor spaces for prolonged periods where people are going to be talking a lot.

 

edit: of course come August my wife will likely be back to in-person teaching and my kids will be in daycare so our family's potential exposure will increase 10000% from current levels

 

edit2: speaking of churches:

 

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7 hours ago, greg775 said:

This is just another example of how we all hate each other in America. It's doomed. My guess is the violence will be the new normal. We hate each other, let's face it. (You are not going to get consensus on a topic like masks when politics rules the country 24/7).

Are you referring to your posting on this topic?  Because if so, I fully agree.

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15 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

You came up with the $1 million reparations plan, but no Juneteenth?  Kwanzaa sound familiar? 

I’m not sure saying “now it’s everything” makes much sense when it has been there all along in Wyandotte County, Wichita and pockets of the KU, KSU and WSU campuses.
 

What’s shocking to me is that you weren’t paying attention to Fox News here...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/what-is-juneteenth-the-history-behind-the-oldest-commemoration-of-the-abolishment-of-slavery-in-the-us

 

 

Its almost like this is an act, being done on purpose...

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High School Graduation 2020

Well we are holding our graduation over three days. Basically a student arrives and they stay in their cars with their family until all of their guests arrive, We escorted them to the cafeteria where we had a screening program set up. If anyone in their group had a temperature of 100 or above the group was escorted out of the building and a lot of disinfection happened in that area.

We moved to the auditorium one family at a time with a photographer set up. The graduate walked across the stage while the family watched from the center aisle, heard their name announced, took a couple picture. We exited the other side, took one more photo with our bigger than life size bronco and they were quickly, but respectfully whisked off campus. 

Most families were in and out within fifteen minutes. 

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Coronavirus Is Taking a High Toll on Sweden’s Elderly. Families Blame the Government.

Discontent is growing over official triage guidelines critics say too often deny elderly patients vital care 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-taking-a-high-toll-on-swedens-elderly-families-blame-the-government-11592479430?mod=hp_lead_pos10

 

When 81-year-old Jan Andersson fell ill with Covid-19 at a nursing home in the Swedish town of Märsta, a doctor consulted by phone ordered palliative care, including morphine, instead of trying to help him fend off the infection.

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44 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Coronavirus Is Taking a High Toll on Sweden’s Elderly. Families Blame the Government.

Discontent is growing over official triage guidelines critics say too often deny elderly patients vital care 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-taking-a-high-toll-on-swedens-elderly-families-blame-the-government-11592479430?mod=hp_lead_pos10

 

When 81-year-old Jan Andersson fell ill with Covid-19 at a nursing home in the Swedish town of Märsta, a doctor consulted by phone ordered palliative care, including morphine, instead of trying to help him fend off the infection.

They are unlike Texans who are happy to die to save the economy for the young people. /sarcasm

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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

Coronavirus Is Taking a High Toll on Sweden’s Elderly. Families Blame the Government.

Discontent is growing over official triage guidelines critics say too often deny elderly patients vital care 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-taking-a-high-toll-on-swedens-elderly-families-blame-the-government-11592479430?mod=hp_lead_pos10

 

When 81-year-old Jan Andersson fell ill with Covid-19 at a nursing home in the Swedish town of Märsta, a doctor consulted by phone ordered palliative care, including morphine, instead of trying to help him fend off the infection.

This is happening a ton in US care facilities, as well as prisons, we have just done a great job of ignoring it just like the rest of the death toll here.

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Memorial Day was the end of this to many.

It’s going to take massive K-12 and university closures, or a complete shutdown of NCAA and NFL to get the public’s sustained attention back again.
 

In that sense, news about the three upcoming books is also making it easier to bury things under the rug.

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3 minutes ago, StrangeSox said:

Just unbelievable levels of stupidity

 

So glad I was basically born a White Sox fan...as this would be incredibly difficult to stomach, even if it is “just” a brother.

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