SCCWS Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Moan4Yoan said: I don’t know. I’d be happy with any of the guys in my list above, other than Kipnis who looks to be done. I’d be fine waiting until one of these guys accepts a bargain basement offer. That may be now. I like Holt but he is really pretty much equal in value to Yolmer who signed a minor league contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, SCCWS said: That may be now. I like Holt but he is really pretty much equal in value to Yolmer who signed a minor league contract. I think his better bat will get him more money than Yolmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, SCCWS said: That may be now. I like Holt but he is really pretty much equal in value to Yolmer who signed a minor league contract. Holt plays 7 positions and is coming off back to back years with an OBP over .362. Yolmer is nowhere near as good. Their similar WAR totals are a function of playing time, not performance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said: Holt plays 7 positions and is coming off back to back years with an OBP over .362. Yolmer is nowhere near as good. Their similar WAR totals are a function of playing time, not performance Holt is also 4 years older and missed time last year w a shoulder and hamstring injury on top of his cornea injury he suffered at home. He plays 6 positions and is average at each which is a plus. He does not play CF. I assumed Yolmer's higher career WAR is because of his plus defense. Holt is considered a very good clubhouse guy. Rumors in New England are Holt to the Pirates but I would love to see Hahn get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, SCCWS said: Holt is also 4 years older and missed time last year w a shoulder and hamstring injury on top of his cornea injury he suffered at home. He plays 6 positions and is average at each which is a plus. He does not play CF. I assumed Yolmer's higher career WAR is because of his plus defense. Holt is considered a very good clubhouse guy. Rumors in New England are Holt to the Pirates but I would love to see Hahn get him. Age doesn’t matter much when you haven’t shown you can hit. The Giants gave Yolmer a one year minor league deal. He’s likely a cheap one year bench bat for them, just like any of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Quote from Hahn in Duber’s latest article: “Are there spots on this roster where we could add reinforcements that would put us in a stronger position? Absolutely," Hahn told Our Chuck Garfien in an interview before SoxFest. "And those are the things that keep me up at night and will continue to for the foreseeable future. "But you also have to look at it from the player's perspective. Seeing Nick Madrigal coming, it might not be the most appealing place to come. We can explain to them how we view Nick. And we've been pretty candid publicly about how we view Nick and the excitement we have for Nick, but also the uncertainty about when that's going to start. But in the end, a free agent has to make a decision about, 'This is my personal best opportunity to maximize my future.' "So that's my kind of long-winded way of saying, yeah there's guys available, but it's a two-way street and it's not necessarily something you should count on seeing us convert on." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Orlando said: Quote from Hahn in Duber’s latest article: “Are there spots on this roster where we could add reinforcements that would put us in a stronger position? Absolutely," Hahn told Our Chuck Garfien in an interview before SoxFest. "And those are the things that keep me up at night and will continue to for the foreseeable future. "But you also have to look at it from the player's perspective. Seeing Nick Madrigal coming, it might not be the most appealing place to come. We can explain to them how we view Nick. And we've been pretty candid publicly about how we view Nick and the excitement we have for Nick, but also the uncertainty about when that's going to start. But in the end, a free agent has to make a decision about, 'This is my personal best opportunity to maximize my future.' "So that's my kind of long-winded way of saying, yeah there's guys available, but it's a two-way street and it's not necessarily something you should count on seeing us convert on." Christ this man can say in 200 words what can be said in 20. Anybody worth adding will be too good to accept a bench role with a top 20 prospect in MLB at their position already in AAA. Edited February 4, 2020 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, Orlando said: Quote from Hahn in Duber’s latest article: “Are there spots on this roster where we could add reinforcements that would put us in a stronger position? Absolutely," Hahn told Our Chuck Garfien in an interview before SoxFest. "And those are the things that keep me up at night and will continue to for the foreseeable future. "But you also have to look at it from the player's perspective. Seeing Nick Madrigal coming, it might not be the most appealing place to come. We can explain to them how we view Nick. And we've been pretty candid publicly about how we view Nick and the excitement we have for Nick, but also the uncertainty about when that's going to start. But in the end, a free agent has to make a decision about, 'This is my personal best opportunity to maximize my future.' "So that's my kind of long-winded way of saying, yeah there's guys available, but it's a two-way street and it's not necessarily something you should count on seeing us convert on." I mean, that's honest at least. Sox need a capable defender to backup SS & 3B and everyone knows Madrigal will be the eventual starter at 2B very soon. Can't blame any FA that isn't ready to commit to that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: Christ this man can say in 200 words what can be said in 20. Anybody worth adding will be too good to accept a bench role with a top 20 prospect in MLB at their position already in AAA. Eh, none of the guys I listed in my original post are sure-fire starters on many teams. Maybe the Cubs since they need a 2B? These guys are more likely to be bench additions than starters once they sign. Edited February 4, 2020 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Brock Holt to Brewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 8 hours ago, SCCWS said: Brock Holt to Brewers. Bummer, I thought he was a great fit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Wouldn’t be surprised to see Cheslor be our bench bat tbh, then he’s the first one out when Madrigal is ready. Edited February 18, 2020 by Soxnfins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, SCCWS said: Brock Holt to Brewers. Crap! That's the guy I wanted. Edited February 18, 2020 by South Side Fireworks Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: Wouldn’t be surprised to see Cheslor be our bench bat tbh, then he’s the first one out when Madrigal is ready. That would be veteran for the sake of veteran; the kind of stuff we did in Ozzie's latter years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I still think Madrigal is penciled in pending a late ST extension. If they really were serious about holding Madrigal back...Brock Holt was obvious. The last cuts of Spring will also provide some interesting names if Madrigal doesn't make the team out of ST. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 37 minutes ago, GreenSox said: That would be veteran for the sake of veteran; the kind of stuff we did in Ozzie's latter years. Literally to get dfa'd after a few weeks/month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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