Tnetennba Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 nice new writeups but pretty boring list. They are very conservative to drop players down their rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) Anyone that is 27 years old doesn't belong on a prospect list. JMO. Edited February 28, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, bmags said: nice new writeups but pretty boring list. They are very conservative to drop players down their rankings. It’s way too floor-oriented IMO. Edited February 28, 2020 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 57 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Anyone that is 27 years old doesn't belong on a prospect list. JMO. It's such a weird take for me. When does the age stop? There are lots of good MLB players that came in to the game 26+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: It's such a weird take for me. When does the age stop? There are lots of good MLB players that came in to the game 26+ 25 or 26 depending on the position and injuries. Dunning is 25 and probably won't make his MLB debut until next season at 26. He still counts because he missed a lot of time with his elbow injury and there is no long term concern left. I have no issues with Dunning being considered a prospect at 26, as long as he's about ready to reach MLB. Position players become non-prospects at age 26 for me with the sole exception of catchers. Catchers can still be prospects at age 25-26 but other everyday players I usually consider non-prospects if they're not in AAA by age 24. Edited February 28, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 18 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: 25 or 26 depending on the position and injuries. Dunning is 25 and probably won't make his MLB debut until next season at 26. He still counts because he missed a lot of time with his elbow injury and there is no long term concern left. I have no issues with Dunning being considered a prospect at 26, as long as he's about ready to reach MLB. Position players become non-prospects at age 26 for me with the sole exception of catchers. Catchers can still be prospects at age 25-26 but other everyday players I usually consider non-prospects if they're not in AAA by age 24. Seems very arbitrary, but okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Whether you include guys like Robert, Kopech, Madrigal, Collins or exclude them...This farm system still looks loaded to me, especially on 7/2 with these picks and IFAs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChiSoxJon said: Whether you include guys like Robert, Kopech, Madrigal, Collins or exclude them...This farm system still looks loaded to me, especially on 7/2 with these picks and IFAs White IFAs are you referring to? Nothing concrete yet with Cespedes and until that happens the rest of the class isn’t going to move the needle. Edited June 12, 2020 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: White IFAs are you referring to? Nothing concrete yet with official and until that happens the rest of the class isn’t going to move the needle. Vera is all but confirmed I'm extremely optimistic on BOTH Cespedes now and Colas later...along with the other handful of projected signings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 4:32 PM, Jack Parkman said: 25 or 26 depending on the position and injuries. Dunning is 25 and probably won't make his MLB debut until next season at 26. He still counts because he missed a lot of time with his elbow injury and there is no long term concern left. I have no issues with Dunning being considered a prospect at 26, as long as he's about ready to reach MLB. Position players become non-prospects at age 26 for me with the sole exception of catchers. Catchers can still be prospects at age 25-26 but other everyday players I usually consider non-prospects if they're not in AAA by age 24. Players are prospects until they have 50 IP or 130 AB in the big leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ChiSoxJon said: Whether you include guys like Robert, Kopech, Madrigal, Collins or exclude them...This farm system still looks loaded to me, especially on 7/2 with these picks and IFAs Those guys are all included because they're all prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 1. Robert 2. Vaughn 3. Kopech 4. Madrigal 5. Kelley 6. Crochet 7. Dunning 8. Stiever 9. Thompson 10. Dalquist I drip at the sight of all that SP. Edited June 12, 2020 by Squirmin' for Yermin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: 1. Robert 2. Vaughn 3. Kopech 4. Madrigal 5. Kelley 6. Crochet 7. Dunning 8. Stiever 9. Thompson 10. Dalquist I drip at the sight of all that SP. Exactly how I'd have it, loaded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, ChiSoxJon said: Exactly how I'd have it, loaded Same, If Colas is signed i'd slot him in ahead of Stiever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, beautox said: Same, If Colas is signed i'd slot him in ahead of Stiever. Colas probably is going to sign with the Sox, but not until the 2021 J2 period. If the Sox get Cespedes, where would you guys slot him in? 9 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: 1. Robert 2. Vaughn 3. Kopech 4. Madrigal 5. Kelley 6. Crochet 7. Dunning 8. Stiever 9. Thompson 10. Dalquist I drip at the sight of all that SP. I'd swap Kelley and Crochet, but I'm higher on Crochet than most. Most lists will have it this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1. Robert 2. Vaughn 3. Kopech 4. Crochet 5. Madrigal 👀 Cespedes 6. Kelley 👀 Colas 7. Dunning 8. Stiever 9. Collins 10. Thompson Adding some "if all goes right" names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Quin said: 1. Robert 2. Vaughn 3. Kopech 4. Crochet 5. Madrigal 👀 Cespedes 6. Kelley 👀 Colas 7. Dunning 8. Stiever 9. Collins 10. Thompson Adding some "if all goes right" names I would go like this: 1. Luis Robert 2. Michael Kopech 3. Andrew Vaughn 4. NIck Madrigal 5. Jared Kelley 6. Garrett Crochet 7. Dane Dunning 8. Jonathan Stiever 9. Matthew Thompson 10. Andrew Dalquist 11. Norge Vera I'd slot Cespedes in at 5 if they get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I would go like this: 1. Luis Robert 2. Michael Kopech 3. Andrew Vaughn 4. NIck Madrigal 5. Jared Kelley 6. Garrett Crochet 7. Dane Dunning 8. Jonathan Stiever 9. Matthew Thompson 10. Andrew Dalquist 11. Norge Vera I'd slot Cespedes in at 5 if they get him. Is Vera really that good or is it more the unknown prospect status puts him there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, ptatc said: Is Vera really that good or is it more the unknown prospect status puts him there. He's good. He's the best pitcher in the international class. He slots in favorably with Matthew Thompson and Andrew Dalquist. Those guys are a bit of a troika. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 If they get Cespedes, he goes in front of Madrigal as a prospect IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: He's good. He's the best pitcher in the international class. He slots in favorably with Matthew Thompson and Andrew Dalquist. Those guys are a bit of a troika. Excellent. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I would go like this: 1. Luis Robert 2. Michael Kopech 3. Andrew Vaughn 4. NIck Madrigal 5. Jared Kelley 6. Garrett Crochet 7. Dane Dunning 8. Jonathan Stiever 9. Matthew Thompson 10. Andrew Dalquist 11. Norge Vera I'd slot Cespedes in at 5 if they get him. My thought process for Crochet is that hard throwing lefty with a wipeout slider has a decent floor (bullpen) with the Sox, whereas while I'm high on Madrigal, it's a profile so unique that I just need to see against MLB pitching. Crochet will be below Madrigal on the Top 100, but I just feel like the Sox are the perfect home for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: He's good. He's the best pitcher in the international class. He slots in favorably with Matthew Thompson and Andrew Dalquist. Those guys are a bit of a troika. Question: Would any non-Vera or Cespedes J2 prospects enter the Top 30. I'm assuming no, especially with no season, but curious as to your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, Quin said: Question: Would any non-Vera or Cespedes J2 prospects enter the Top 30. I'm assuming no, especially with no season, but curious as to your thoughts. Nobody that they're expected to sign, no. Colas would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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