Will There Be a 2020 Season?

[greg775]

21 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Here's the latest proposal that Ken Rosenthal has obtained from MLB: https://theathletic.com/1804433/2020/05/09/rosenthal-latest-details-on-baseballs-plan-to-return/

78-82 game regular season in home ballparks.

What does that mean? No road games cause of corona?

[flavum]

6 minutes ago, greg775 said:

What does that mean? No road games cause of corona?

It means teams playing in their own parks; not the Arizona/Florida thing they were talking about.

[Y2Jimmy0]

52 minutes ago, greg775 said:

What does that mean? No road games cause of corona?

No. It means teams will play in their home cities instead of at spring training sites. 

[bmags]

1 hour ago, greg775 said:

What does that mean? No road games cause of corona?

Lol

[greg775]

1 hour ago, flavum said:

It means teams playing in their own parks; not the Arizona/Florida thing they were talking about.

Thanks. I can't imagine having fans. Can you imagine the cases uncovered after one homestand??

[SonofaRoache]

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

The 85-86 Bulls at 30-52 making the playoffs?  Think of what fans ended up seeing...and we’ve had a .500ish or even lower Padres team make it in the modern era.

The Nats were 19-31 last year. 

[caulfield12]

2 hours ago, SonofaRoache said:

The Nats were 19-31 last year. 

And the Astros had a similar record in the first half of 2005...16-31 on May 27th.

[Texsox]

I just read DH for all if a limited schedule is played with geography used for scheduling. It could be the in road to finally have universal DH. 

[ptatc]

12 minutes ago, Texsox said:

I just read DH for all if a limited schedule is played with geography used for scheduling. It could be the in road to finally have universal DH. 

I read the first part and thought "double headers for all" it will be some fun days watching. Then I finished the sentence and thought "well I still like it."  😁

[bmags]

Anyone else feel like the owners going with the most restrictive form of the draft despite it being seemingly against their own interests was mostly just done to signal to players that yes, the owners will burn it all down rather than give in to labor demands.

[flavum]

No WBC in 2021, so there is some good news.

[Quin]

34 minutes ago, bmags said:

Anyone else feel like the owners going with the most restrictive form of the draft despite it being seemingly against their own interests was mostly just done to signal to players that yes, the owners will burn it all down rather than give in to labor demands.

Yup

[bmags]

 

[southsider2k5]

5 minutes ago, bmags said:

 

Now you know why they were willing to punt on the draft.  The MLB guys got theirs.

[bmags]

6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Now you know why they were willing to punt on the draft.  The MLB guys got theirs.

50/50 is fine. NBA players get 52%.

I applaud both sides for doing this though, it certainly makes most sense but it sucks.

[ptatc]

57 minutes ago, bmags said:

Anyone else feel like the owners going with the most restrictive form of the draft despite it being seemingly against their own interests was mostly just done to signal to players that yes, the owners will burn it all down rather than give in to labor demands.

I think so. With the CBA coming up, they are starting the process and precedents here.

[ptatc]

17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Now you know why they were willing to punt on the draft.  The MLB guys got theirs.

No kidding. Good deal for them. It may be a precursor to a floor/ceiling cap in the next CBA.

[bmags]

I may be wrong and I cna't find the article, but I'm fairly certain that on average mlb players do better than 50% revenue in their salaries. This is almost certainly a pay cut on %, and obviously will be a cut to the overall pie.

[Harold's Leg Lift]

51 minutes ago, bmags said:

50/50 is fine. NBA players get 52%.

I applaud both sides for doing this though, it certainly makes most sense but it sucks.

Who are you applauding and for what?

[bmags]

3 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Who are you applauding and for what?

I'm applauding them for starting with a revenue sharing model rather than dealing with % cuts to individual salaries which is where I thought it would start. Them haggling up front with this makes me feel very hopeful.

[Harold's Leg Lift]

It's going to be shot down.  The players say they have already negotiated the pay structure.  

[Balta1701]

5 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

It's going to be shot down.  The players say they have already negotiated the pay structure.  

If the players hold to that, then there will be no season. While this is clearly an offer that would benefit owners long-term (precedent especially), with no gate revenues the owners can't pay current contracts, so it will be genuinely up to the PA to decide whether avoiding that precedent is worth sacrificing any season.

[SonofaRoache]

I think the new plan benefits the Sox big time. Kopech and Rodon would be ready in time to make a difference. We are also a team that could sneak into the playoffs with a shortened season. 

[ScootsMcGoots]

17 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

It's going to be shot down.  The players say they have already negotiated the pay structure.  

I don't see what there is to negotiate. You play half the season, you get paid for half the season. Plus, no tickets being sold nor concessions. Major revenue loss for the teams. How is that deal not fair to the players? Unless I am missing something, seems to be more than fair to me.

[Harold's Leg Lift]

19 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

If the players hold to that, then there will be no season. While this is clearly an offer that would benefit owners long-term (precedent especially), with no gate revenues the owners can't pay current contracts, so it will be genuinely up to the PA to decide whether avoiding that precedent is worth sacrificing any season.

I think they ultimately will agree to some sort of pay cut (though not this one) but they will get something in return and I hope they take a big ole bite out of the owners asses.