ptatc Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: I love having you on the board. One of these days I need to buy you a beer or something at a Sox game. Deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I don't think Tanner Witt is affordable at this point. He was asking for $3 million and has a strong commit to Texas. Jared Kelley was also asking for $3 million but he wants to sign and not attend college. I doubt Cole Wilcox signs at this point either. He could be a top 10 pick next year. If we save a million on Crochet, that would translate to about $2.6 million available to use on their 2nd round pick without hitting into the extra 5% overage that has been allowed in the past. Who knows what his number looks like, but I imagine they are saving something here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Beck Way Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 200 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Louisiana State Age At Draft: 20.9 The top junior college prospect in a fairly deep class at the level, Way is a 6-foot-4, 200-pound righthander who showed really good stuff last summer in the Cape Cod League. While he threw just 13.2 innings for Cotuit last summer, Way impressed scouts enough by striking out 18 batters and posting a 3.29 ERA that some evaluators put him in the second-to-third-round range on his summer look alone. This spring with Northwest Florida JC, Way continued to impress, showing better control and a solid fastball/changeup combination. Way gets up to 96-97 mph with the fastball, though the pitch more typically sits in the 92-94 range. He creates uncomfortable at-bats due to his ability to spot his fastball in all four quadrants of the zone and he disrupts the timing of batters thanks to a plus changeup with exceptional tumbling action. Way’s slider is more inconsistent than his fastball and changeup, but it has shown flashes of being an average third offering. With two plus pitches, a good frame and above-average control, Way has put himself in position to be taken in the second round or slightly after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, bmags said: If you didn't like Nicolas' walk numbers you won't like Beeders. What do we think of the guy from that D3 school? edit: Nick Garcia from Chapman Nick Garcia Chapman (Calif.)RHP Notes: Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 215 | B-T: L-R Commit/Drafted: Never Drafted Age At Draft: 21.2 Garcia played third base his freshman year at Chapman before converting to pitching as a sophomore. He served as the closer on Chapman’s 2019 Division III national championship team and was named Most Outstanding Player of the College World Series. Garcia moved to the Panthers rotation this spring and became one of the fastest-rising prospects in the country before the season shut down. A strong 6-foot-4, 215 pounds, Garcia has an easy operation and smooth delivery, allowing him to maintain his stuff and pound the strike zone with all three of his pitches. He throws his fastball in the 92-95 mph range, touching 97-98, and backs it up with an upper-80s slider and mid-80s cutter that both have a chance to be above-average. Garcia has a limited track record as a starter and has rarely faced good competition, but he held his own pitching in relief in the Cape Cod League last summer. He is also young for a college junior and will be barely 21 on draft day. Garcia’s stuff, delivery, youth and fresh arm have teams interested on the draft’s first day. He is in line to be the highest Division III player selected since the Nationals drafted Jordan Zimmermann in the second round in 2007 out of Wisconsin-Stevens Point. This sounds like a White Sox draft pick. They regularly dabble in coverting/ed players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 42 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah they like Kelley. They followed him all summer/spring. Jared Jones is a name i've heard. Kyle Nicolas on the college side. Jimmy - do you have a sense for Crochet deal? Am guessing underslot but wonder how much headroom it enables for today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Beck Way Ht: 6-4 | Wt: 200 | B-T: R-R Commit/Drafted: Louisiana State Age At Draft: 20.9 The top junior college prospect in a fairly deep class at the level, Way is a 6-foot-4, 200-pound righthander who showed really good stuff last summer in the Cape Cod League. While he threw just 13.2 innings for Cotuit last summer, Way impressed scouts enough by striking out 18 batters and posting a 3.29 ERA that some evaluators put him in the second-to-third-round range on his summer look alone. This spring with Northwest Florida JC, Way continued to impress, showing better control and a solid fastball/changeup combination. Way gets up to 96-97 mph with the fastball, though the pitch more typically sits in the 92-94 range. He creates uncomfortable at-bats due to his ability to spot his fastball in all four quadrants of the zone and he disrupts the timing of batters thanks to a plus changeup with exceptional tumbling action. Way’s slider is more inconsistent than his fastball and changeup, but it has shown flashes of being an average third offering. With two plus pitches, a good frame and above-average control, Way has put himself in position to be taken in the second round or slightly after. This sounds like a guy that Don Cooper would like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: This sounds like a guy that Don Cooper would like. I really like his write-up and age. There are a few guys, kelley included, where it's like "well maybe someone teaches him the dunning curve or cooper cutter". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Quin said: https://www.futuresox.com/2020/06/01/2020-draft-preview-jared-kelley-rhp/ Why has he dropped so far? Based on that article, he was an option for the Sox at 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Why has he dropped so far? Based on that article, he was an option for the Sox at 11. James outlined it. He has "now" stuff and a "now" body and is asking for big money. If Crochet is an underslot, which isn't unreasonable, it's a good fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Quin said: James outlined it. He has "now" stuff and a "now" body and is asking for big money. If Crochet is an underslot, which isn't unreasonable, it's a good fit. Thanks - yeah I read the article. I guess I just figured if the arm was that great, someone would have taken him yesterday and tried to figure the financials outs. Here's to hoping to falls 11 more spots. Looks like a great kid to have in the system. Built like a horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I WANT JARED KELLEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I would of wanted Abel over Crochet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, timbo8 said: Add the smoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Quin said: Add the smoke I really don’t think that Not Cishek guy knows anything, at least in terms of the draft. He was way off about last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, timbo8 said: What? People have different opinions? I'm shocked!/green 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 The Orioles have to be the favorites to take him at this point right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, timbo8 said: The question becomes is Crochet plus Kelley worth Abel + a lesser college player (mostly likely an at slot deal pick) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: I would of wanted Abel over Crochet. It isn't as simple as that. Abel probably takes up the entire draft slot money. Crochet should allow us to get a greater high school player later on, where with Abel. that probably doesn't happen. Instead of a high ceiling guy in round 2, we are looking at a slot level college pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, SoxAce said: The Orioles have to be the favorites to take him at this point right? I could see the Orioles not preferring him. I like Kelley but it’s not that obvious he’s the best player available right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, SoxAce said: The Orioles have to be the favorites to take him at this point right? Counterpoint: They're the Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Os gambled and lost it seems. They might be higher on kjerstadt but they can't have him at 2 with his strikeout to walk ratio (looks like a low obp slugger) and westburg is about neutral at his spot. This means they need to do a ton of damage on day two with their saved money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harold's Leg Lift Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: Os gambled and lost it seems. They might be higher on kjerstadt but they can't have him at 2 with his strikeout to walk ratio (looks like a low obp slugger) and westburg is about neutral at his spot. This means they need to do a ton of damage on day two with their saved money. They better hit big today because as it stands right now the Royals and Padres kicked their ass on day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: They better hit big today because as it stands right now the Royals and Padres kicked their ass on day 1. Lacy and Loftin was such a haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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