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MLB COVID-19 outbreaks: None of as Sept 18

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3 minutes ago, HahnsKiddieTable said:

If baseball shuts down they are probably just gonna have to call it a season. The players stopping and restarting like this is gonna cause injuries 

Valid concern

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15 minutes ago, BamaDoc said:

Sadly, baseball could be serving as an example to the country of how to do things. Instead we are seeing some teams do it better but even within teams we see the range from good to poor examples. These guys stand to make millions and don’t take it seriously enough.  Disappointing as I was looking forward to baseball being my escape and instead COVID will continue as a major story line. 

We don’t know that we are seeing some teams do it better. We can’t evaluate what people are doing in the clubhouse or bullpen or during travel or during off time. There’s a randomness element to this, if you are in an area where there’s currently less virus then you may be less likely to have one of your players get it. Some guys might make 25 mistakes before catching it, some guys might make 2. Depends on who is around them and how irresponsible those people are.

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12 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

This doesn’t address travel, which is probably where all the Marlins got it.

So a professional sports team can't travel privately? 

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1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said:

So a professional sports team can't travel privately? 

Huh?

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Don’t worry everyone, we still have college football in 2 months, and canceling non conference games will fix this. It will be so safe that my former university’s Athletic Director would like the season ticket holders to know that they get priority for those tickets as the gates will be open, so plan those tailgates now!

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1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

Huh?

People believe these players are getting Covid through traveling from city to city together. There can be private social distancing seating on large planes and usage of more buses. 

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1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said:

People believe these players are getting Covid through traveling from city to city together. There can be private social distancing seating on large planes and usage of more buses. 

Yes and that needs to be mandated in the rules, and masks need to be required. 

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I’m not under any delusion that we’d get away without having any infections, but playing baseball was contingent on it being safer to play baseball than just go about normal life. That does not appear to be the case at this point. 

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This is just further proof that a) this country lacked a serious overall plan for containing this thing and b) baseball management bought into the hype about this thing getting better. It’s not.  I live in NYC where we have taken it seriously and our caseload is down, but my job is returning in a limited way soon. We spent hundreds of man hours and plenty of money on technology and protocols, and I Am still worried. Wanting baseball back isn’t a plan. Needing the money isn’t a plan. Negotiating with the players isn’t a plan. A plan is a plan and MLB never had one. Pods with restricted hotels was the only way this was ever gonna work. Instead, you got teams traveling and staying in uncontrollable public accommodations during a pandemic. This just lacks any process thinking whatsoever.

Season is probably going to be cancelled, but if it isn’t, I bet you Trout does not come back from paternity leave. Would you?

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I heard that the Marlins outbreak could be tied to a group attending a club and the Cardinals one to a group attending a casino. WTF? 

What happened to "Don't be that guy?" Did they not get the memo? 

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Hey Ralph, I got a charter for you. Pick up a group in Philly and drive them to Miami. There's about twenty of 'em.

Seriously, the team is heading back to Miami. Who wants to drive that bus? 

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They simply need to put harder rules in place around going out while on the road.  If guys are unwilling to sacrifice two months of partying at night, then they should opt-out or be suspended for the season without pay.  Make this a zero tolerance policy and actually enforce it.  IMO, that would solve the bulk of the problems here.

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1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

Yes and that needs to be mandated in the rules, and masks need to be required. 

Yep. I don't understand why teams aren't taking precaution within the clubhouse. If one guy gets it, he may not test positive for a few days, or there may be a lag in a positive result. Masks should be required for sure. 

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The vaccine will be out in just a few days. One guy was predicting that the first vaccine might be 50% effective. 

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56 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

They simply need to put harder rules in place around going out while on the road.  If guys are unwilling to sacrifice two months of partying at night, then they should opt-out or be suspended for the season without pay.  Make this a zero tolerance policy and actually enforce it.  IMO, that would solve the bulk of the problems here.

I feel like any decent plan for anything can’t rely on 100% of participants being virtuous. You have to have systems in place. Hence, mandatory quarantine inside the NBA bubble. Every group will have rebels, and super selfish individuals. You gotta plan for reality, not a fantasy world where everyone acts in their own/the group’s enlightened self interest.

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Just now, pcq said:

The vaccine will be out in just a few days. One guy was predicting that the first vaccine might be 50% effective. 

I believe that’s the Chinese military vaccine. It’s crap. Other vaccines will be waaaay more effective and they are just as far along.

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3 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:

It begins. If the league won't enforce the rules for all players, we're going to see more and more opt op until we reach a breaking point. The players will take it into their own hands and force the issue.

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The Philadelphia Phillies are optimistic that their last two positive COVID-19 tests -- with a coach and clubhouse attendant -- were false positives, sources told ESPN on Saturday.

The Phillies, who are a week separated from games against the Miami Marlins with no positive tests among players through Friday's testing, are permitted to access Citizens Bank Park for staggered workouts beginning Saturday.

False positives would be good for Phillies because it would take the incubation period of the team's most recent exposure back to last Sunday against the Marlins, who have had 21 positive tests within their organization since that game.

 

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The Cardinals received word by Saturday morning of four additional positive tests on their 58-person traveling party, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch confirmed. They have had six positives test total since arriving in Milwaukee on Thursday. Three are players, including the two players who learned of their positive tests Thursday. They have not been identified.

Players can choose to exercise their medical privacy and will not be identified without their consent. 

As of Saturday morning, the team was still trying to understand the scope of the outbreak and had not reviewed or received all of the results from the tests taken Friday, a source confirmed.

Here is the breakdown of what is confirmed by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and and from officials with the team:

• Six members of the traveling party have been isolated from the team. They will undergo additional testing Saturday as a result of their positive tests. Four were new as of late Friday night or early Saturday.

The entire traveling party is undergoing more tests Saturday morning.

• Not all of the results from Friday's exams have been reported or reviewed by the team. Once those are available to the team they'll have a better understanding of the reach of the outbreak, the condition of their roster, and whether they can advance on the next few days of the season.
 

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/four-more-cardinals-personnel-test-positive-for-covid-19-bringing-uncertainty-to-series-next-steps/article_12a2a5d7-35c0-5705-924e-2d64a5cb2e71.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1

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So has anyone else noticed that it’s now August and the reigning AL rookie of the year Yordan Alvarez has been unable to report with no reason given for an entire month now? Can’t guarantee it’s a severe case but that’s exactly what we’d be saying about a player with a severe case.

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6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So has anyone else noticed that it’s now August and the reigning AL rookie of the year Yordan Alvarez has been unable to report with no reason given for an entire month now? Can’t guarantee it’s a severe case but that’s exactly what we’d be saying about a player with a severe case.

He was cleared to rejoin the team last week. He’s currently at their training site getting his reps in. 

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10 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

So has anyone else noticed that it’s now August and the reigning AL rookie of the year Yordan Alvarez has been unable to report with no reason given for an entire month now? Can’t guarantee it’s a severe case but that’s exactly what we’d be saying about a player with a severe case.

Pretty sure it’s public knowledge he had COVID, he’s already back with their taxi squad, and rumors are he will be ready to join the big league squad next week.

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Kindly go fuck yourself, Heyman. He and Nightengale just don't have a shred of dignity less.

 

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wow this is such terrible thinking. It’s a virus you f***ing moron, it doesn’t care if you are a quitter or how manly or weak you are. It cares about whether it has opportunity to spread to additional people and that is it. You don’t beat a virus by staring it in the face with your steely eyed determination.

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