Lillian Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 In the interest of gaining a better understanding about the pandemic, particularly as it relates to professional sports, I'd like to pose the question; How serious is Covid-19. in respect to professional athletes? The data regarding the number of cases and the number of deaths has been critically questioned. Many experts have asserted that it is not a life threatening disease, for younger people, especially if they are in good health. That controversy aside, as baseball fans, we are paying particular attention to its impact on Major League players and teams. Of all of the players, who have tested positive, so far, has any player even gotten very ill, much less been in critical condition? We do know that none of the players have died. If this trend continues, could professional sports simply begin to treat this the same way that they do the flu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 We have one athlete who is out for the rest of the year, at least, because of heart inflammation related to COVID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Freddie Freeman had a 104.5 degree fever and thought he was dying, Eduardo Rodriguez has inflamation of the heart muscle related to Covid that has shut him down for the season and some players have said they have trouble catching their breath even weeks after having a "mild" case. I don't think we know the long term ramifications but the trauma to the heart muscle that's popping up in mild cases is concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Has anyone here investigated the very odd and suspicious controversy over hydroxychloroquine plus zinc, as a treatment for Covid-19? Many doctors have asserted that it is a very effective treatment. The curious thing is that Youtube and Twitter have consistently censored and removed such material. Social media companies have waged a campaign to block any positive information about the HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) regimen, as an effective treatment. This is unprecedented and very suspicious. One has to ask themselves; why would these social media companies be blocking and censoring information being presented by doctors, about a disease, and its treatment? What is their motive and who benefits from the censorship of such information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lillian said: Has anyone here investigated the very odd and suspicious controversy over hydroxychloroquine plus zinc, as a treatment for Covid-19? Many doctors have asserted that it is a very effective treatment. The curious thing is that Youtube and Twitter have consistently censored and removed such material. Social media companies have waged a campaign to block any positive information about the HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) regimen, as an effective treatment. This is unprecedented and very suspicious. One has to ask themselves; why would these social media companies be blocking and censoring information being presented by doctors, about a disease, and its treatment? What is their motive and who benefits from the censorship of such information? It's not suspicious, nor unprecedented. It is at best unproven, and at worst, totally false. They are trying to make sure more people don't kill themselves following the advice of this President who doesn't care about them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: It's not suspicious, nor unprecedented. It is at best unproven, and at worst, totally false. They are trying to make sure more people don't kill themselves following the advice of this President who doesn't care about them. Leaving politics out of the discussion, are you suggesting that the many doctors who are trying to inform the public about their positive results with the HCQ protocol, are doing so with some malevolent motive? What exactly would that motive be? I don't understand the logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Lillian said: Leaving politics out of the discussion, are you suggesting that the many doctors who are trying to inform the public about their positive results with the HCQ protocol, are doing so with some malevolent motive? What exactly would that motive be? I don't understand the logic. What doctors? These? https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/americas-frontline-doctors-hydroxychloroquine-breitbart-donald-trump-1034927/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lillian said: Leaving politics out of the discussion, are you suggesting that the many doctors who are trying to inform the public about their positive results with the HCQ protocol, are doing so with some malevolent motive? What exactly would that motive be? I don't understand the logic. Pretty much the studies that have happened have either been disqualified or withdrawn due to flaws, or the people involved believe things like demon spawn are real. The next quality study proving this stuff is effective will be the first. At the end of the day, people with a fiscal interest in this stuff are the ones pushing the cure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Confirmation bias is always a potential obstacle to discovering the truth. If anyone really wants to discern the truth, they might be better served looking at both sides of this issue. Many doctors have reported very positive results. It is easy to find attempts to reject and dispute their findings. After all, it should be obvious that there is a concerted effort to cover up this information. Again, one should be asking why. This should not be the kind of subject, about which one side of the controversy should be censored. If one does the research, and considers both sides of the argument, they will likely discover that there is something very nefarious transpiring here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, Lillian said: Confirmation bias is always a potential obstacle to discovering the truth. If anyone really wants to discern the truth, they might be better served looking at both sides of this issue. Many doctors have reported very positive results. It is easy to find attempts to reject and dispute their findings. After all, it should be obvious that there is a concerted effort to cover up this information. Again, one should be asking why. This should not be the kind of subject, about which one side of the controversy should be censored. If one does the research, and considers both sides of the argument, they will likely discover that there is something very nefarious transpiring here. WHAT DOCTORS??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, Kalapse said: What doctors? These? https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/americas-frontline-doctors-hydroxychloroquine-breitbart-donald-trump-1034927/ People are outrageously stupid and ignorant. That is how clowns like these doctors get a voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, Lillian said: Confirmation bias is always a potential obstacle to discovering the truth. If anyone really wants to discern the truth, they might be better served looking at both sides of this issue. Many doctors have reported very positive results. It is easy to find attempts to reject and dispute their findings. After all, it should be obvious that there is a concerted effort to cover up this information. Again, one should be asking why. This should not be the kind of subject, about which one side of the controversy should be censored. If one does the research, and considers both sides of the argument, they will likely discover that there is something very nefarious transpiring here. No there isn't. If you believe this stuff you are a dumbass plain and simple. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 Simply stated; This should not be a political issue. Nevertheless, it is obvious that I'm talking to the wrong crowd here. I'll drop it. Be well, everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, Lillian said: Simply stated; This should not be a political issue. Nevertheless, it is obvious that I'm talking to the wrong crowd here. I'll drop it. Be well, everybody. lol. Makes posts making it a political issue. Then says it shouldn’t be a political issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Lillian said: Simply stated; This should not be a political issue. Nevertheless, it is obvious that I'm talking to the wrong crowd here. I'll drop it. Be well, everybody. It doesn't have to be political, the people pushing a Malaria drug as a Covid cure are doing so as a political ploy because the POTUS has been pushing it since the beginning. There's no global conspiracy here, the "doctors" that you mention have been exposed as loons with ulterior motives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lillian said: Confirmation bias is always a potential obstacle to discovering the truth. If anyone really wants to discern the truth, they might be better served looking at both sides of this issue. Many doctors have reported very positive results. It is easy to find attempts to reject and dispute their findings. After all, it should be obvious that there is a concerted effort to cover up this information. Again, one should be asking why. This should not be the kind of subject, about which one side of the controversy should be censored. If one does the research, and considers both sides of the argument, they will likely discover that there is something very nefarious transpiring here. This is not confirmation bias. This is good science meets snake oil salesmen, and trying to present them as equals. This isn't a 50/50 thing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Also, what about a GLOBAL conspiracy to suppress a Covid treatment isn't political? What else would be the motivation behind ignoring this miracle cure? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 An important thing to remember about treatment is the body also heals itself. There is a famous anecdote of a doctor who was famous for identifying cases of TB early, when in fact he was spreading it to his patients with his tests. point being, unless you are doing a double blind controlled experiment, you will not be able to really understand if the drug or the body is causing people to improve. when that has happened, hydrochloraquine hasn’t helped at best. A drug named remdesivir has shown improvement. It’s costly to make in time and cost and is still only being used on an emergency basis. You’d be better focusing on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Nick Cordero was a Broadway star in great health. His lungs were on par with those of professional athletes. He was on a ventilator, his leg was amputated, and he was in a coma. Then he died. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/nick-cordero-tony-nominated-broadway-star-dies-at-41-of-coronavirus/2020/07/05/3d194b62-a42f-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, Lillian said: Has anyone here investigated the very odd and suspicious controversy over hydroxychloroquine plus zinc, as a treatment for Covid-19? Many doctors have asserted that it is a very effective treatment. The curious thing is that Youtube and Twitter have consistently censored and removed such material. Social media companies have waged a campaign to block any positive information about the HCQ (hydroxychloroquine) regimen, as an effective treatment. This is unprecedented and very suspicious. One has to ask themselves; why would these social media companies be blocking and censoring information being presented by doctors, about a disease, and its treatment? What is their motive and who benefits from the censorship of such information? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nation-s-testing-czar-it-s-time-move-talk-about-n1235600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Lillian said: Confirmation bias is always a potential obstacle to discovering the truth. If anyone really wants to discern the truth, they might be better served looking at both sides of this issue. Many doctors have reported very positive results. It is easy to find attempts to reject and dispute their findings. After all, it should be obvious that there is a concerted effort to cover up this information. Again, one should be asking why. This should not be the kind of subject, about which one side of the controversy should be censored. If one does the research, and considers both sides of the argument, they will likely discover that there is something very nefarious transpiring here. Did you by any chance catch Plandemic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 But also, we have a COVID thread. Take it there. We don't need COVID dedicated offshoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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