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I'm happy with Mendick's production as an IF super sub. Lets be real though, Madrigal will always be a better at making contact and hitting for average. 

He is SUPPOSEDLY a better fielder. That remains to be seen, but I'd assume he is slightly better. I feel his range would be limited given his size and his average spees

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8 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

He is SUPPOSEDLY a better fielder. That remains to be seen, but I'd assume he is slightly better. I feel his range would be limited given his size and his average spees

Watch both of them turn a double play. Madrigal is quicker on his feet and more precise with his throws. Mendick is like watching a snail. Then add Leury at the time playing SS.. no wonder the Sox had trouble turning double plays at that time.

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4 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

I'm happy with Mendick's production as an IF super sub. Lets be real though, Madrigal will always be a better at making contact and hitting for average. 

He is SUPPOSEDLY a better fielder. That remains to be seen, but I'd assume he is slightly better. I feel his range would be limited given his size and his average spees

There is no reason to have talent evaluators if they can't identify the most talented players.  Defense and speed are valuable assets and are more dependable than some other tools like power.  At least for me...Madrigal doesn't have me talking to myself like the EE's of this game.  Mendick has done very well and I am happy with his production as well.  Day in and day out, however...Madrigal will help us win more ballgames IMO.

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39 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Not much of a separator other than 19 rounds.  

I'm impressed you can determine this after 83 at bats for Mendick and 17 at bats for Madrigal.

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5 minutes ago, ptatc said:

I'm impressed you can determine this after 83 at bats for Mendick and 17 at bats for Madrigal.

This. I'm assuming this thread is purposely hyperbolic. Madrigal was tearing up AA and AAA hitting while being 22. Mendick was getting spanked by A+ pitching at that age. 

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Just now, Yearnin' for Yermin said:

This. I'm assuming this thread is purposely hyperbolic. Madrigal was tearing up AA and AAA hitting while being 22. Mendick was getting spanked by A+ pitching at that age. 

The Madrigal doubters are serious.

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I think the Mendick love is based on him going up to the plate with an approach. Look away, hit it that way. Try not to swing at pitches outside the zone. Nice and simple.

Normally that wouldn’t be that big a deal, but so far in the 2020 season he is the only Sox hitter that owns a consistent approach. 

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This thread could be about the fact that the Sox created a serviceable player out of a 20th round pick, and how much he has saved the team this season with all of the infield injuries.  But I am sure we need to crap on a guy with 17 MLB ABs after flying through the minors.

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Not a White Sox season unless an under talented bench player has a small amount of success and fans then hype said player up to be more than he is. 
 

Wouldn’t shock me if Mendick is playing with Saladino, Delmonico and Palka in a couple of years.

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Mendick is a fine backup but madrigal makes more contact, runs better and is a better defender.

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14 hours ago, HaroldSouthside said:

I think the Mendick love is based on him going up to the plate with an approach. Look away, hit it that way. Try not to swing at pitches outside the zone. Nice and simple.

Normally that wouldn’t be that big a deal, but so far in the 2020 season he is the only Sox hitter that owns a consistent approach. 

It's easy to do this when you aren't pressured to drive runs in and swing for power. I like what he's done thus far, but context is important to consider. 

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5 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said:

It's easy to do this when you aren't pressured to drive runs in and swing for power. I like what he's done thus far, but context is important to consider. 

Yep, I agree.
 

He is limited with that approach, but a lot less frustrating to watch compared to most/ all of his teammates. At least right now. 
 

He is going to start to see a steady diet of inside fastballs. I’m wondering if he can start to turn on a few of those. Doubtful. But it would be awesome if he can. 

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16 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Not much of a separator other than 19 rounds.  

Well, that and the fact that when Mendick was 23 years old he was in A ball and Madrigal is in the big leagues. 

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31 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Madrigal makes more contact but Mendick makes more quality contact.  Running and defense is a wash.  

In SSS, Mendick EV is nearly 3 MPH less than Madrigal, but you say Mendick makes more quality contact. Interesting.

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I'm thinking about starting a new topic - Yermin v. Moncada -- not much of a difference if you ask me. 

 

 

Sometimes when I'm at Sox games I'll hear people talk a few rows back about topics like this and I go ... where do these people come from? the answer I guess is SoxTalk.com

 

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37 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Madrigal makes more contact but Mendick makes more quality contact.  Running and defense is a wash.  

Mendick most definitely is a lot slower than madrigal. Nick isn't a burner but mendick is a below average runner 

Longenhagen gave him a 45 and sprint speed confirmed that at a below average 26.9 which is slower than eloy (27.7) and only a bit faster than Jose (26.6).

Mendick is very slow for a middle infielder.

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15 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Dumb thread.  Did Madrigal bang your sister?  

Yeah, but his exit velocity was very slow.

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Where do people get the idea that Madrigal is a fast runner? I'm not saying he's slow, but he's certainly not close to Robert, Engel, and Anderson

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1 hour ago, Dominikk85 said:

Mendick most definitely is a lot slower than madrigal. Nick isn't a burner but mendick is a below average runner 

Longenhagen gave him a 45 and sprint speed confirmed that at a below average 26.9 which is slower than eloy (27.7) and only a bit faster than Jose (26.6).

Mendick is very slow for a middle infielder.

To be fair, Eloy is an above-average runner and Abreu is around average, contrary to popular belief. But I agree that Mendick's speed is not good for a MI

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2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yeah, but his exit velocity was very slow.

Hahaha

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1 hour ago, Jose Abreu said:

Where do people get the idea that Madrigal is a fast runner? I'm not saying he's slow, but he's certainly not close to Robert, Engel, and Anderson

He was hyped up as being really fast but yeah i don't see it, maybe 55. 

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If you really think Mendick is as good or better than Madrigal, look at the bright side, you obviously feel 2B is solved, and with a better player than the Sox were hoping manned it for the next 10 years. Some on this board are crazy and putting way too much is extremely small sample sizes. It would be about April 15th, if that,  had the season started on time.

 

 

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