Chicago White Sox Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, striker said: If you go by baseballtradevalues.com, Hader + Woodruff would cost you Vaughn, Cease, Kopech and Madrigal. https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/trade-26770/ Which is why that dude’s tweet was total BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 If the Sox pull off Hader and Woodruff I'll go peepee in my underpants. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashman Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, striker said: If you go by baseballtradevalues.com, Hader + Woodruff would cost you Vaughn, Cease, Kopech and Madrigal. https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/trade-26770/ Unless you are getting a Sale in his prime type of pitcher, Cease is 100% off the table. He has to be untouchable at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Yeah, but he's stretched about the same as Lopez. If they'd stretch Lopez they should be able to stretch Peralta. You want to trade for Peralta to help this year’s rotation? I thought you just said it was a long play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, flavum said: Cough, cough, cough...smoky in here... Lynn>Bundy>Ray Morosi is the worst. If the White Sox are looking for pitching of course they have asked about every available guy, and those are the 3 most mentioned. I read the Athletic and one of their guys claimed the price for Bundy could be Cease. That has got to be laughable. I wonder if the Cubs would take a prospect ranked around 15 for Q. Probably not, but if they are bleeding as much cash as they claim, the Sox should probably ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Morosi is the worst. If the White Sox are looking for pitching of course they have asked about every available guy, and those are the 3 most mentioned. I read the Athletic and one of their guys claimed the price for Bundy could be Cease. That has got to be laughable. I wonder if the Cubs would take a prospect ranked around 15 for Q. Probably not, but if they are bleeding as much cash as they claim, the Sox should probably ask. I want nothing to do with Bundy. To the idea of trading for him, I say no ma’am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, Tony said: If the Q trade wasn’t still such a topic of conversation in this city, I could see the Sox trying to get him back from the Cubs. But I don’t think the Cubs would like the optics of the Sox getting him back for pennies on the dollar. Chatwood is also one more bad start away from getting sent to the pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, fathom said: I want nothing to do with Bundy. To the idea of trading for him, I say no ma’am I would take him if the price was right. But he is now throwing 90 and has a track record of 7 good starts. The price shouldn’t be anywhere near Cease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You want to trade for Peralta to help this year’s rotation? I thought you just said it was a long play. Both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: I want nothing to do with Bundy. To the idea of trading for him, I say no ma’am Yeah, Bundy is not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I would take him if the price was right. But he is now throwing 90 and has a track record of 7 good starts. The price shouldn’t be anywhere near Cease. Cease is worth exponentially more than Bundy, so no need to worry there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Both. Peralta is way too much of a project to help our rotation this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Yeah, Bundy is not the answer. Neither is Lynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Neither is Lynn. Why is Lynn not the answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtheballdown Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Cease would never be traded back to the cubs. For anybody on their team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Why is Lynn not the answer? Because just like Bundy I don't think he's actually this good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why is Lynn not the answer? I do not think the Sox give up a haul for Lynn. It will likely either be a rental type, or potentially a starter under longer control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 People saying Bundy and Lynn aren’t the answer have paid no attention to what’s made them great recently. I prefer Lynn, however, because he’s a workhorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Morosi is the worst. If the White Sox are looking for pitching of course they have asked about every available guy, and those are the 3 most mentioned. I read the Athletic and one of their guys claimed the price for Bundy could be Cease. That has got to be laughable. I wonder if the Cubs would take a prospect ranked around 15 for Q. Probably not, but if they are bleeding as much cash as they claim, the Sox should probably ask. Morosi throw everything at the wall, that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Steve9347 said: People saying Bundy and Lynn aren’t the answer have paid no attention to what’s made them great recently. I prefer Lynn, however, because he’s a workhorse. No I have. Honestly I'd rather Bundy than Lynn, if they're going to trade for someone there. He's still young enough that he could get some of his fastball back and he has elite spin on it. Edited August 29, 2020 by Jack Parkman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I would like getting lynn or bundy as long none of kopech, madrigal, Vaughn, stiever, crochet and Kelley are traded. You don't want to sacrifice the future but one year or the window has value too and if you give up a 40+ or two that is worth it because many of those will end up getting rule 5ed later anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why is Lynn not the answer? Lynn could be great, but he is going to cost a ton in prospect capital. Plus you would have to expect some regression this season. He has had a real nice career, but nothing like the start to this season. So maybe he has a 4,50 ERA the rest of this season. Granted, you have him another season at a very reasonable rate, but he will be 34 and doesn’t exactly take much care of himself. I think the price will be too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Because just like Bundy I don't think he's actually this good. Why do you think that? This is the fWAR leaderboard for 2019 & 2020 combined. Lynn is second overall and there is not a single guy on that list that isn’t considered a high end starting pitcher. When do you start believing that his development of a cutter and him embracing analytics might mean he’s legit now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Orlando said: Idk if this guy has sources. He has never pretended to before. He's threw this out there before too. It could've been true at the time, but other players have opted out mid season while nothing came of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why do you think that? This is the fWAR leaderboard for 2019 & 2020 combined. Lynn is second overall and there is not a single guy on that list that isn’t considered a high end starting pitcher. When do you start believing that his development of a cutter and him embracing analytics might mean he’s legit now? Never. He's 33 and you can't count on it continuing. He'd have to be valued as a pure rental. I'd be more willing to buy Bundy at age 27. I'm not willing to acquire Lynn for anything more than scraps. Anything decent is a massive overpayment. Edited August 29, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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