chw42 4,131 Posted February 5, 2021 If Wentz costs 1 first rounder and Carr takes 2, I'd take Carr just about every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyyle23 4,343 Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, chw42 said: I had Wentz in fantasy in 2019. He was consistently mediocre. I did too and that's probably why my mental image doesn't match up 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CentralChamps21 1,793 Posted February 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Bidding war = Bears are giving up too much to get him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chw42 4,131 Posted February 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Bidding war = Bears are giving up too much to get him. lol absolutely. I think Wentz is probably fixable, but I don't think he'll ever be the QB he was in 2017 pre-ACL injury. However, if I'm giving up at least a first round draft pick and picking up at least $60 million in guaranteed money, I better be getting a decent QB in return. Right now Wentz is not that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoSox05 121 Posted February 5, 2021 If you didn't have to trade for them and the contracts weren't so bad, either Wentz or Carr would be decent options. Giving a 1st or 2nd, not sure about that. I'd take Carr, at least he is healthy all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Parkman 4,215 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) If the Eagles aren't giving draft picks to the Bears for them to take his contract, a trade is just stupid. Edited February 5, 2021 by Jack Parkman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 5,114 Posted February 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, chw42 said: lol absolutely. I think Wentz is probably fixable, but I don't think he'll ever be the QB he was in 2017 pre-ACL injury. However, if I'm giving up at least a first round draft pick and picking up at least $60 million in guaranteed money, I better be getting a decent QB in return. Right now Wentz is not that. Fixable....by the Bears?!?!? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoxFan562004 47 Posted February 5, 2021 Wow, if they get Wentz for a haul and he doesn't work out, between the 4 years they completely wasted by drafting Mitch and the damage done from a bad trade, Pace could be one of the worst GMs of all time. I'll wait to see what it costs, but if it's a lot, this is an absolutely brutal move and why you don't let lame duck coaches and GMs stick around, they don't care about anything but next year and it's not like the Bears are a good QB away from the Super Bowl. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Parkman 4,215 Posted February 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoxFan562004 said: Wow, if they get Wentz for a haul and he doesn't work out, between the 4 years they completely wasted by drafting Mitch and the damage done from a bad trade, Pace could be one of the worst GMs of all time. I'll wait to see what it costs, but if it's a lot, this is an absolutely brutal move and why you don't let lame duck coaches and GMs stick around, they don't care about anything but next year and it's not like the Bears are a good QB away from the Super Bowl. ^^^^^^^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chw42 4,131 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SoxFan562004 said: Wow, if they get Wentz for a haul and he doesn't work out, between the 4 years they completely wasted by drafting Mitch and the damage done from a bad trade, Pace could be one of the worst GMs of all time. I'll wait to see what it costs, but if it's a lot, this is an absolutely brutal move and why you don't let lame duck coaches and GMs stick around, they don't care about anything but next year and it's not like the Bears are a good QB away from the Super Bowl. They need a better offensive line before they bring in a QB who's only had success when he had an elite o-line blocking for him. Edited February 5, 2021 by chw42 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Parkman 4,215 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) If true. Edited February 5, 2021 by Jack Parkman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StrangeSox 882 Posted February 5, 2021 Glennon Trubisky Foles Wentz! 4th time's the charm 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Parkman 4,215 Posted February 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Glennon Trubisky Foles Wentz! 4th time's the charm Lolz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jerksticks 964 Posted February 5, 2021 I’d rather roll with Trubisky over Wentz straight up with this OLine. And to give up tons of picks- oh my 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Parkman 4,215 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jerksticks said: I’d rather roll with Trubisky over Wentz straight up with this OLine. And to give up tons of picks- oh my They should learn from the O'Brien/Hopkins fiasco and fire Pace before he has a chance to make this trade. Edited February 5, 2021 by Jack Parkman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shipps 500 Posted February 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, StrangeSox said: Glennon Trubisky Foles Wentz! 4th time's the charm FML why do they have to be so bad at finding a QB... They not only make the incorrect decisions at QB but they make the absolute worst decisions that are obvious to everyone from jump. We wouldnt even need to see it play out to know this is fu***** stupid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Parkman 4,215 Posted February 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, shipps said: FML why do they have to be so bad at finding a QB... They not only make the incorrect decisions at QB but they make the absolute worst decisions that are obvious to everyone from jump. We wouldnt even need to see it play out to know this is fu***** stupid. I know, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CentralChamps21 1,793 Posted February 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: I’d rather roll with Trubisky over Wentz straight up with this OLine. And to give up tons of picks- oh my I'm not sure how many pages ago, but I'm pretty sure I said something similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider2k5 11,195 Posted February 5, 2021 Can we send them Foles back?> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,355 Posted February 5, 2021 51 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: If you didn't have to trade for them and the contracts weren't so bad, either Wentz or Carr would be decent options. Giving a 1st or 2nd, not sure about that. I'd take Carr, at least he is healthy all the time. These contracts don't seem that bad to me. You don't take on the signing bonuses in a trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jerksticks 964 Posted February 5, 2021 I miss the Lovie teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmags 8,355 Posted February 5, 2021 I don't know. This doesn't seem optimal to me but also isn't like, obviously bad. It's just very risky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StrangeSox 882 Posted February 5, 2021 Giving Pace yet another crack at a QB seems like a bad idea. You also have this perverse incentive where he either hits it big or gets fired, so he had every reason to gamble away the team's future draft picks to try to make something happen right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoSox05 121 Posted February 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, bmags said: These contracts don't seem that bad to me. You don't take on the signing bonuses in a trade. I just don't think they will be able to add a lot besides him and you have to give up a top tier draft pick when they haven't had a lot in the past few drafts. Not sure Robinson is back in that case. I bet he gets big money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chw42 4,131 Posted February 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: I just don't think they will be able to add a lot besides him and you have to give up a top tier draft pick when they haven't had a lot in the past few drafts. Not sure Robinson is back in that case. I bet he gets big money. They can always franchise tag Robinson if they get someone like Wentz. But then like you said, they can't add anything on the o-line to protect him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
