Rowand44 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, KrankinSox said: Regarding Bummer and Rodon: Hahn said both are possible to return on the road trip, they just need to clear a couple of 'hurdles'. Bummer seems to be closer as he is in Cincy with the team already. Regarding postseason eligibility for Crochet: Can anyone say for sure what the ruling is here? I imagine he is definitely eligible or else the Sox wouldn't have made this move. Obviously I hope Rodon is healthy for himself but for the Sox, Bummer is the much more important piece for the playoff run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I’m bad at this, but with starting his service time now, does that mean Sox get 6 years instead of 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, fathom said: Yep, the KRod loophole I believe Ha yup. I member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, bmags said: John Olerud? I saw on twitter that Mike Leake was the last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m bad at this, but with starting his service time now, does that mean Sox get 6 years instead of 7 If he breaks camp with the big club next spring its only 6 cuz he would eclipse a full year in 2021. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijames1957 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Could we see him pitching as early as tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chisoxfn Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m bad at this, but with starting his service time now, does that mean Sox get 6 years instead of 7 I presume next year he'll be back in the minors working things out and thus you probably aren't messing with his clock much at all? Now if he comes up and lights thinks up like K-Rod - that is a different conversation. Risk here from a service time manipulation perspective would be if he were to get hurt (kind of like Kopech where we lost a full season of eligibility while he was on the DL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m bad at this, but with starting his service time now, does that mean Sox get 6 years instead of 7 It'll have no impact on his service time, he'll only accrue like 9 days of service, considering he's still going to be a starter long term the Sox will hold him down plenty to get the extra year of control, all it will require is a few weeks. The only thing it does is force them to start using his options next year so he'll run out sooner than if they hadn't called him up this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Also, assuming he debuts this year: 12 rookie debuts. On a first place in the AL team. In year one of the contention window. Damn it feels good. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 If Crochet has the stuff we expect having Crochet-Marshall-Bummer-Colome would be huge in the playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kalapse said: It'll have no impact on his service time, he'll only accrue like 9 days of service, considering he's still going to be a starter long term the Sox will hold him down plenty to get the extra year of control, all it will require is a few weeks. The only thing it does is force them to start using his options next year so he'll run out sooner than if they hadn't called him up this year. 2020 Service time x2.8 = 28 days . It's not an issue cuz he is easy to stash in AA/AAA to keep refining/stretching him out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Just now, BigHurt3515 said: If Crochet has the stuff we expect having Crochet-Marshall-Bummer-Colome would be huge in the playoffs How dare you not include Cordero. With that said, I’m thinking Rodon is done for the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Chris Sale? Believe Al Kaline and Dave Winfield never played in the minors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 https://www.futuresox.com/2020/05/07/2020-draft-preview-garrett-crochet-lhp/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, fathom said: How dare you not include Cordero. With that said, I’m thinking Rodon is done for the season. At this point, would you trust him at all? Can't say I would. His body just hasn't been reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 HOLY WHAT BATMAN!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: 2020 Service time x2.8 = 28 days . It's not an issue cuz he is easy to stash in AA/AAA to keep refining/stretching him out. Oh yeah, forgot about that, still not going to matter at all in the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 So the interesting thing will be to see how Crochet performs against Righties, but I'm pretty confident he can get out MLB lefties now. He had good practice with Vaughn down there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 This is an amazingly unexpected awesome surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, bmags said: So the interesting thing will be to see how Crochet performs against Righties, but I'm pretty confident he can get out MLB lefties now. He had good practice with Vaughn down there though. He had to be performing pretty well if they are good with him coming up, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanJoeCrede Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Holy hell Batman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 26 minutes ago, fathom said: I’m bad at this, but with starting his service time now, does that mean Sox get 6 years instead of 7 Yes. A typical season consists of 172 days. If you are on the roster 162 of 172 days, you have a "year" of service. if you have 161 or less, you don't have a year. Since we are starting counting today, assuming he is on the roster all year next year, he will end up with something like a year and 10 days, so we would need to keep him down 11 days, plus the amount of days he serves this year times 2.7 to adjust for 2020 service time, to get him under the magic number key up a "year" of service. Of course that assumes a normal season next year FWIW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, pcq said: Believe Al Kaline and Dave Winfield never played in the minors. I know Winfield didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) Wow. Did not expect him to be the next man up, but definitely excited to see him pitch. Bad news on Marshall, though. I'm weary of any shoulder injuries, but hopefully Hahn is being truthful when he says he expects to have him back by the Cubs series. Edited September 18, 2020 by dasox24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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