fathom 5,738 Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, Blackout Friday said: I think anything big they’ll let it ride a few days and not try to pile on We will get an update when Hahn holds his end of the season media call Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chitownsportsfan 2,375 Posted October 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Don’t they typically announce Tommy John issues pretty quickly? No not really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackout Friday 476 Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, fathom said: We will get an update when Hahn holds his end of the season media call Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackout Friday 476 Posted October 3, 2020 Just mumbling amongst some pals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balta1701 3,039 Posted October 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Don’t they typically announce Tommy John issues pretty quickly? A lot of the time they have to wait a couple days for swelling to go down before things can be fully examined, if there is any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Allen 3,650 Posted October 3, 2020 Where we are on the calendar, there really is no rush. If they think he can rehab it, this happened at a good time. If it is determined during his offseason program or in spring training he needs surgery, he won’t miss mor than he would miss if they operated tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balta1701 3,039 Posted October 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Where we are on the calendar, there really is no rush. If they think he can rehab it, this happened at a good time. If it is determined during his offseason program or in spring training he needs surgery, he won’t miss mor than he would miss if they operated tomorrow. Well, that's not certain? Some guys take 14 months to be back to pitching after TJS and others are pitching but take additional months to years to return to effectiveness. IF a guy has TJS in the spring, he may not be ready to go by opening day of the next year. If he has TJS right now, he should at least be ready for spring training 2022, if there is one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thad Bosley 602 Posted October 3, 2020 It doesn’t say he left the game with “left ROTATOR CUFF tightness”. It says “left FOREARM tightness”. So why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that TJS is inevitable at this point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron883 2,370 Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said: It doesn’t say he left the game with “left ROTATOR CUFF tightness”. It says “left FOREARM tightness”. So why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that TJS is inevitable at this point? Go to sleep Bosley. it's clearly past your bedtime. Edited October 3, 2020 by Yearnin' for Yermin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thad Bosley 602 Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: Go to sleep Bosley. it's clearly past your bedtime. Luckily the off-season is just beginning which means you’ll have several months to work on your funny man bit that, at the moment, is not landing the plane on the punchlines. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thad Bosley 602 Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Tony said: At the moment?!?!?!? Lol - I was only addressing his little jab at me, but I see your point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider2k5 6,119 Posted October 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said: It doesn’t say he left the game with “left ROTATOR CUFF tightness”. It says “left FOREARM tightness”. So why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that TJS is inevitable at this point? Forearm tightness is the most common early diagnosis of a torn UCL that doesn't happen in one big dramatic instant tear. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Allen 3,650 Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Well, that's not certain? Some guys take 14 months to be back to pitching after TJS and others are pitching but take additional months to years to return to effectiveness. IF a guy has TJS in the spring, he may not be ready to go by opening day of the next year. If he has TJS right now, he should at least be ready for spring training 2022, if there is one. If there is something messed up right now, he will miss next season anyway. If they think rest will fix it, they will know probably before spring training if it worked. If he needs surgery and has it by February, chances are he will lose no more time than if they operate now. This isn’t like if it happened next April and they decided to try rest and have that fail. Hopefully he is fine and this was a bit of a false alarm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuliusO1274 170 Posted October 4, 2020 I'm not sure what is worse, he needs Tommy John surgery or he is fine and they took him out for no reason other than his velocity was down. Did he give some type of signal to the dugout that something was wrong or did Ricky and the trainer come out on their own because they were curious about his velocity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Allen 3,650 Posted October 4, 2020 54 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said: I'm not sure what is worse, he needs Tommy John surgery or he is fine and they took him out for no reason other than his velocity was down. Did he give some type of signal to the dugout that something was wrong or did Ricky and the trainer come out on their own because they were curious about his velocity? He said there was something going on. There is a lot all of us can criticize RR for, but lifting him was the correct move. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southsider2k5 6,119 Posted October 4, 2020 56 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said: I'm not sure what is worse, he needs Tommy John surgery or he is fine and they took him out for no reason other than his velocity was down. Did he give some type of signal to the dugout that something was wrong or did Ricky and the trainer come out on their own because they were curious about his velocity? If the choice is to overreact or underreact to a potential UCL injury the answer is ALWAYS to overreact. Always. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominikk85 436 Posted October 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Thad Bosley said: It doesn’t say he left the game with “left ROTATOR CUFF tightness”. It says “left FOREARM tightness”. So why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that TJS is inevitable at this point? You mixed that up. Rotator cuff is shoulder while TJ is elbow 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pcq 665 Posted October 4, 2020 The usual course is to rest and rehab for a year then have TJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squirmin' for Yermin 780 Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 9:12 AM, pcq said: The usual course is to rest and rehab for a year then have TJ. As long as he's optioned first Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turnin' two 985 Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: As long as he's optioned first Its time to stop worrying about service time. This team has moved into its contention window. For the next few years, the goal should be to put the most talented players on the field every single day. If Crochet needs TJ, he should get it done tomorrow. The team shouldn't be thinking about 2027 right now. They should be thinking about winning the World Series as many times as possible. And manipulating one guys time isn't going to make a difference in keeping the window open. The only way they can do that is to draft, develop, and sign guys well. Edited October 5, 2020 by turnin' two Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaliSoxFanViaSWside 2,175 Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 5:58 PM, JuliusO1274 said: I'm not sure what is worse, he needs Tommy John surgery or he is fine and they took him out for no reason other than his velocity was down. Did he give some type of signal to the dugout that something was wrong or did Ricky and the trainer come out on their own because they were curious about his velocity? Not sure what is worse ? Of course him being hurt is way worse. There's no other way to look at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldsox 234 Posted October 5, 2020 That was one nasty curve ball he threw to get the last out in the first inning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beautox 160 Posted October 5, 2020 Good news maybe? 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EloyJenkins 832 Posted October 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, beautox said: Good news maybe? definitely in chicago to get tests done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chitownsportsfan 2,375 Posted October 5, 2020 Man seeing the bean that empty is depressing. So is a long winter with no baseball. "People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I tell 'em, I stare out the window and wait for spring". -- Rogers Hornsby 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
