Flash Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Like Molina but would rather resign McCann for less $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Orlando said: Love this idea! I read into it that you are basically getting a backup catcher, an additional pitching coach mentor, and possibly your next manager when he retires and so does Tony in a couple years. I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 My worst nightmare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 I think Yadi would be worse for the #changethegame culture than Larussa by a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, bmags said: I think Yadi would be worse for the #changethegame culture than Larussa by a lot. And would wind up playing way too much 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Would LOVE Ozuna. He showed last year what kind of hitter he really is. He would destroy with the White Sox. Terrible fielder tho and we really could use a left hander... but my god Ozuna can rake. .300++ hittter with huge power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, fathom said: And would wind up playing way too much Grandal catching less is a good thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, fathom said: And would wind up playing way too much Bingo, that's the biggest issue here. Yadi ain't going anywhere to be a backup catcher. This is an awful idea and an awful fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Yadi on the 2020 McCann plan would be cool with me. Especially if they don't plan on signing a DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 There is zero reason for Yadi to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, RagahRagah said: There is zero reason for Yadi to come here. 1. He is a FA 2. The Sox need a catcher 3. His former manager now manages the Sox He's not the best fit but it definitely isn't zero reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Yadi wants a 2 year deal, will want to catch 75 percent of the time, can’t hit, whines when he doesn’t play and then we’re blocking Vaughn basically from playing at all this season if you’re not moving Grandal. It’s a bad idea. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I'm sure you know he could be pulling our legs. I’m not Cishek but I was an attendee during Phil Humbers perfect game in Seattle. Got a free ticket from The Shell Oil Corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Grandal catching less is a good thing. It’s just not feasible with this roster though. Grandal has to catch 120+ plus games if Abreu and Vaughn are on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: It’s just not feasible with this roster though. Grandal has to catch 120+ plus games if Abreu and Vaughn are on the team. Yeah it’s just not a fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 The Sox need another catcher for about 40 to 50 games. Find yourselves a defensive specialist if you don't like Collins/Mercedes/Zavala to do the job. Yadi isn't the guy we need right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) Ok guys, Yadi may not be the best fit but I wouldn’t throw out the “not a fit” stuff. Last year everyone said Ozuna was “not a fit” and in hindsight I would have rather gotten him then what they gave us. If the Sox go with Collins and Zavala, we will all wish they had signed Yadi. The more good ball players the better. Obviously if he signs here there will be an understanding that his playing time would take a hit. Edited November 5, 2020 by Orlando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Orlando said: Ok guys, Yadi may not be the best fit but I wouldn’t throw out the “not a fit” stuff. Last year everyone said Ozuna was “not a fit” and in hindsight I would have rather gotten him then what they gave us. If the Sox go with Collins and Zavala, we will all wish they had signed Yadi. The more good ball players the better. Obviously if he signs here there will be an understanding that his playing time would take a hit. And what happens when Tony decides Molina is better defensively and gives him too many starts while he puts Grandal at DH and Vaughn ends up losing at bats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 44 minutes ago, hi8is said: I’m not Cishek but I was an attendee during Phil Humbers perfect game in Seattle. Got a free ticket from The Shell Oil Corporation. Or did you mean to say you are not Not Cishek ? The old Shell game ? Did you stay at a Holiday Inn express ? Bananas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Rowand44 said: Bingo, that's the biggest issue here. Yadi ain't going anywhere to be a backup catcher. This is an awful idea and an awful fit. Yep Yadi is going to have to come to grips that he will be making less money, play less and is closer to becoming a coach than he is to getting what he wants as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, fathom said: And what happens when Tony decides Molina is better defensively and gives him too many starts while he puts Grandal at DH and Vaughn ends up losing at bats? We have no idea if Vaughn starts the year with the MLB club, heck he could even be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, Orlando said: Ok guys, Yadi may not be the best fit but I wouldn’t throw out the “not a fit” stuff. Last year everyone said Ozuna was “not a fit” and in hindsight I would have rather gotten him then what they gave us. If the Sox go with Collins and Zavala, we will all wish they had signed Yadi. The more good ball players the better. Obviously if he signs here there will be an understanding that his playing time would take a hit. Just because Ozuna was much better than what the Sox ended up with in 2020, it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't a good fit for the roster in 2020, and still isn't a good fit moving forward. Would I have taken him on the 1 year deal he eventually signed? Absolutely. But he still isn't a good long term fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Flash said: Like Molina but would rather resign McCann for less $$$. We would all like this but McCann is going to get a good deal to be a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Orlando said: We have no idea if Vaughn starts the year with the MLB club, heck he could even be traded. Vaughn, barring trade, injury or extension, will be up in late April. Thats a damn near 100% lock. He's not going to open the year on the roster, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Just because Ozuna was much better than what the Sox ended up with in 2020, it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't a good fit for the roster in 2020, and still isn't a good fit moving forward. Would I have taken him on the 1 year deal he eventually signed? Absolutely. But he still isn't a good long term fit. I agree but I’m a believer that you sign the best players available to you. Hopefully it’s the best fit but there is no guarantee you can find that best fit. Good teams stockpile good players. Ozuna wasn’t a fit for Atlanta either at the time but it worked wonders. Los Angeles operates this way. I would hate for the Sox to pass on a chance to sign a Molina type hoping to convert on a better fit just to end up with Collins. They passed on Ozuna, Castellanos etc and ended up with Nomar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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