ShoeLessRob Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I understand the frustration of watching Mazara bat, but idk how they don’t put all their resources into the starting rotation which has three questionable holes to fill. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) This probably belongs in the catch all or the German Marquez thread but it’s a topic of discussion here as well. Edited November 12, 2020 by maloney.adam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: If you can’t get Bauer then I fully agree. Go with the best possible lineup and add two B & C tier starters in free agency. Springer + Kluber + Quintana for example would be fine by me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 NEW offseason plan with all the updated happenings. This is my fantasy, but I try to base it in reality of course. 1) Fire TLR, professionally find a new manager and the pitching/bench coaches ASAP. Because...Duh? 2) Get a Top of the rotation arm. a) Bauer ideal, but most unrealistic b) Acquire via trade? Darvish/Marquez/Woodruff/Lynn/I don't know? I don't know what a trade looks like, but you got to get it done! A T.O.R. Starter is needed to take this team to another level. Can't do it with Lucas Giolito alone. (Keuchel is not going to be good for long) 3) Get a lower level SP via Free Agency Honestly, should be a lot here. Chris Archer/Quintana/Odorizzi, hell anyone just to get a body in for the long haul. 4) Find our RF option We really need good defense and a left handed bat without being a liability on offense. Free Agency doesn't offer the best options (Maybe Joc or Jackie bradley?), so trade might work with Gallo or Nimmo or something a long those lines. Other option would be to spend big on Springer, but as much as I'd love that, it really isn't a smart fit. 5) Try to sign Vaughn so we can get him up to the Bigs as our DH. 6) figure out the bullpen by signing or trading for some options. Maybe go after a big named target if price is right. This is not too hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Lynn is such a great fit for the rotation. He can slide in behind Giolito and give them lots of quality competitive innings which is exactly what this team needs. The bullpen can take a couple days off from the five and dive guys in the back of the rotation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: If you can’t get Bauer then I fully agree. Go with the best possible lineup and add two B & C tier starters in free agency. Springer + Kluber + Quintana for example would be fine by me. Killer offseason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Lynn is such a great fit for the rotation. He can slide in behind Giolito and give them lots of quality competitive innings which is exactly what this team needs. The bullpen can take a couple days off from the five and dive guys in the back of the rotation. The problem is he’s only got one year of control left and I can’t imagine he’ll come that cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, maloney.adam said: Well hopefully he gets to answer questions about playing for another cheater of a manager, but this time a hypocritical drunk one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: A year of Lynn for six years of Madrigal is a terrible deal. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Texas wouldn't take Madrigal. They're buried in 2B Rougned Odor's contract, they have Nick Solak whose best position is 2B and they just used a 1st round pick on a 2B. They need pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Texas wouldn't take Madrigal. They're buried in 2B Rougned Odor's contract, they have Nick Solak whose best position is 2B and they just used a 1st round pick on a 2B. They need pitching. If we could get to the second tier of starters for a deal, I am in. No Kopech, Dunning, Crochet, or Cease. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, maloney.adam said: I think I agree with this? It kind of depends on if the Mets go hard after Realmuto or Springer. But I'd expect it to be Realmuto, with Springer look at an Upton-like contract? I just feel pretty good about the mid-level pitchers this year on short deals while we sort out our rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, southsider2k5 said: If we could get to the second tier of starters for a deal, I am in. No Kopech, Dunning, Crochet, or Cease. One of those would likely have to be dealt. Even for Marquez or Darvish as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, maloney.adam said: One of those would likely have to be dealt. Even for Marquez or Darvish as well. For one year of Lynn though? I think I'd pass. Cease would be my most available out of that bunch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, maloney.adam said: I get your point but wow jumping off the cliff already? It’s only November 12th so relax! So far only one free agent has publicly come out and said that he doesn’t want to play for the Sox and most likely its because he wanted to go back to the Mets anyways. We still have a young promising team. Not "jumping off a cliff", just stating the current situation. For every public statement player, there are many more not commenting publicly, but will just avoid the situation. The White Sox are at a competitive disadvantage this free agent season. There is no coaching staff in place, the organization is fully engaged in unnecessary damage control. There are many competitive teams with a good core. Players want to play in a place they feel comfortable. Tim Anderson, the team leader, is not comfortable based on his statements. Dallas Keuchel was the only FA signing last year by a player who could have signed elsewhere for the same / possibly more $/years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: One of those would likely have to be dealt. Even for Marquez or Darvish as well. Lynn has a one year deal. If you are bringing back a longer term contract, that is a different dynamic. Darvish shouldn't require as big of a deal as he has a ton of cash left on that deal, in a winter where cash going to be extremely guarded by teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The problem is he’s only got one year of control left and I can’t imagine he’ll come that cheap. I don't trade any top prospects for a guy who is only going to pitch one season. I he wants to sign a new contract with the Sox, then that is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Lynn has a one year deal. If you are bringing back a longer term contract, that is a different dynamic. Darvish shouldn't require as big of a deal as he has a ton of cash left on that deal, in a winter where cash going to be extremely guarded by teams. I get you but if you want to go after the best, you have to give up at least something, jeez. I would keep Kopech and include Cease and another mid to low level prospect. Edited November 12, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, maloney.adam said: I get you but if you want to go after the best, you have to give up at least something. I would keep Kopech and include Cease and maybe Stiever and another mid to low level prospect. Then pass. I am not giving up 2 top 100 pitchers for Lance Lynn. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Then pass. I am not giving up 2 top 100 pitchers for Lance Lynn. I edited my post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Then pass. I am not giving up 2 top 100 pitchers for Lance Lynn. Nope. Especially for one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I'd definitely give up Kopech for players. Giving him up for lynn? Silly. Regardless of whether I think Kopech could still be good, you lose that bullet for another deal, and I can't imagine Lynn is the best option here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) I’m posting this here because I want to and since we are in discussion about it. Btw, I’m not this guy so end of discussion there. If some of you guys don’t like me posting this guys tweets, oh well too bad. Lol Edited November 12, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: I’m posting this here anyways since we are in discussion about it and btw I’m not this guy so end of discussion there. If you guys don’t like it oh well. Lol I would hate to lose Madrigal. Thanks for sharing this Al.. I mean Adam. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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