Offseason Targets

[JoshPR 404]

Would you give renato nuñez a flyer? Minor league deal? Still pretty young. As a DH. Just a flyer to see if you catch lighting in a bottle

[YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! 1,383]

I think Blackmon is intriguing to people because taking on his contract would likely mean that the Sox wouldn’t have to give up as much to get Marquez. That’s my take on it at least.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside 2,092]

5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

New bold predictions for us:

• Springer - 5/$125M (announced this Tuesday)
• Richards - 1/$10M
• Colome - 1/$7M
• Lynn - Acquired for Stiever, Adolfo, & Sosa

I rather the Sox throw everything they can at Bauer and sign no one else and make no trades until after Bauer signs.

I don't care about the board freaking out if there is no activity . That should be priority one and make it clear to him how much we want him and plan on winning some World Series with him and would like to sign him asap so we can get on with filling in the rest of the roster.

 Throwing a shit load of money at Springer is not addressing our priorities.

Edited November 23, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside 2,092]

10 hours ago, JoshPR said:

Would you give renato nuñez a flyer? Minor league deal? Still pretty young. As a DH. Just a flyer to see if you catch lighting in a bottle

I think we have enough DH candidates and he's RHanded.

Edited November 23, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

[Harold's Leg Lift 1,062]

There's a common misconception that Rockies pitchers are better when they leave Coors and hitters are worse. 

[ron883 2,279]

22 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

There's a common misconception that Rockies pitchers are better when they leave Coors and hitters are worse. 

So the splits lie?

[Harold's Leg Lift 1,062]

Yes.  Most hitters are better at home.

[turnin' two 957]

55 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

There's a common misconception that Rockies pitchers are better when they leave Coors and hitters are worse. 

Wait, are you saying Tyler Chatwood wasn't awesome after leaving Colorado?  

If I had a buck for everytime I heard that...  well I could have at least gotten a good lunch somewhere.  

[knightni 226]

On 11/22/2020 at 3:28 AM, tray said:

Sox really don't need to make many moves. 

Don't create a hole at second base by trading Madrigal who  is a perfect fit on this team.

If Kopech and Crochet make a starting rotation that already has Giolito and Keuchel  that would be awesome.

Sox would still have  Cease/Rodon/Dunning/ ReyLo  for the fifth spot or the bullpen.

I would like the Sox to sign McCann and then hold their cards unless they get blown away with some trade offer.

 

Definitely not going to happen - a move or two will happen.

Free agency is how they will try to get done.

I have my doubts that many prospects are going anywhere unless they fail at free agency.

 

They need a veteran starter. Their young guys are still not capable of shouldering the full load.

They also need a reliable right fielder. There is no one in their system ready to step up for that position.

 

McCann is getting a starting MLB job somewhere else. He's too good to not.

[Squirmin' for Yermin 695]

1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

There's a common misconception that Rockies pitchers are better when they leave Coors and hitters are worse. 

Exactly why I do not want to give up a ransom for Marquez.

[bmags 5,399]

Excited for some movement as for now there are too many pieces on the board. One thing I find interesting is for all the talk about cutting spending, I don't see that many teams actually posturing that way aside from the cubs and cleveland. Brewers would seem to be a team that could effect as well.

But Tigers and Royals both seem to indicate they are looking to add. Sox certainly. Perhaps twins can't, and there will be teams like the As that just can't retain as much talent as they would in a normal year. But who knows.

[bmags 5,399]

Rosenthal's latest said teams are more interested than you'd expect in Michael Wacha due to his velo increase last year, and they believe his ERA was bad luck in his HR rate.

[Squirmin' for Yermin 695]

14 minutes ago, bmags said:

Excited for some movement as for now there are too many pieces on the board. One thing I find interesting is for all the talk about cutting spending, I don't see that many teams actually posturing that way aside from the cubs and cleveland. Brewers would seem to be a team that could effect as well.

But Tigers and Royals both seem to indicate they are looking to add. Sox certainly. Perhaps twins can't, and there will be teams like the As that just can't retain as much talent as they would in a normal year. But who knows.

You will really see it at the upcoming arbitration deadline.. You already saw tons of good value players get cut due to their player options

[Orlando 1,355]

I’m sorry but if the Sox acquire this player and people complain, they are crazy. He is a potent lefty bat. Bad defense but would be equal to Mazara at least. I’d love it.

[Chicago White Sox 5,588]

1 minute ago, Orlando said:

I’m sorry but if the Sox acquire this player and people complain, they are crazy. He is a potent lefty bat. Bad defense but would be equal to Mazara at least. I’d love it.

97 wRC+ last year and now 34 years old.  Why waste $22M on this dude?

[Orlando 1,355]

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

97 wRC+ last year and now 34 years old.  Why waste $22M on this dude?

It’s not my $22M , and if it means Marquez, I’m all for it

[southsider2k5 5,805]

2 minutes ago, Orlando said:

It’s not my $22M , and if it means Marquez, I’m all for it

I would much rather take on Blackmon to get Marquez than to give up a boatload of top prospects to do it.

[Baron 486]

6 minutes ago, Orlando said:

Bad defense but would be equal to Mazara at least. I’d love it.

 

Where did you come up with that conclusion? The numbers don't suggest that at all. 

[Orlando 1,355]

1 minute ago, Baron said:

Where did you come up with that conclusion? The numbers don't suggest that at all. 

Admittedly did not look but assume as much 

[Chicago White Sox 5,588]

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I would much rather take on Blackmon to get Marquez than to give up a boatload of top prospects to do it.

Sure, but would the Rockies?

[Orlando 1,355]

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

Sure, but would the Rockies?

True, this all depends on how motivated the Rockies are to slash payroll

[bmags 5,399]

What is the appeal of Marquez if we are offsetting his cost control value with a super expensive, aging outfielder while still giving up our cheap depth of prospects?

Marquez is a bad option with our assumed prices. Unless the rockies are going to take a package we'd be willing to give, he's a silly target.

[Baron 486]

2 minutes ago, Orlando said:

Admittedly did not look but assume as much 

Let's cut through the BS of trying white wash his defense. He's a butcher in the OF. In 2018 he had -29 in DRS. -29.....-29. 

 

Edited November 23, 2020 by Baron

[Chicago White Sox 5,588]

Just now, bmags said:

What is the appeal of Marquez if we are offsetting his cost control value with a super expensive, aging outfielder while still giving up our cheap depth of prospects?

Marquez is a bad option with our assumed prices. Unless the rockies are going to take a package we'd be willing to give, he's a silly target.

I think the assumption was the Rockies would be willing to take significantly less prospect capital if you took on Blackmon’s salary, which is what I was questioning.

[bmags 5,399]

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

I think the assumption was the Rockies would be willing to take significantly less prospect capital if you took on Blackmon’s salary, which is what I was questioning.

Blackmon isn't negative value now. It would still require a significant package while having the awesome effect of maxing out salary for the next two years.