maloney.adam Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Orlando said: Oh can I guess who those couple teams were? The Blue Jays and the Mets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Orlando said: Trade for Snell Sign Joc or JBJ Sign Richards or Quintana boom Snell would qualify as a top flight pitcher. Joc or JBJ are a better option than Mazara. Outside of a black hole in RF. Thats all that matters. I like Springer but I am more worried about pitching than anything. Richards would be depth. Then let the rest fight for the prize and work on building up Kopech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Yes but that Jerry didn’t want to spend big on free agency Tony probably told him not to bother, that he could manage these guys to the playoffs in a drunken stupor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) The Sox have 3 pitchers that are MLB ready(Cease, Dunning) or close to it(Kopech) plus a guy like Lopez with an option that will almost surely be used, so the only way this becomes a complete disaster is if none of them take a step forward. I'm pretty sure that Kopech won't be up until June or whenever they get his TJS year back in the event of a shortened season. Dunning has shown enough to get a look this year, and Cease still hasn't pitched a full season or anything close to it at the MLB level. It sucks that the rotation is behind the offense, but if the Sox are patient....they could have a huge window of greatness in the near future, however in order to do that, you risk some of these guys busting. They might only be in the market for 1 SP, and in that case I'd go with someone who you know what you're going to get from when healthy, and that would be Odorizzi. Edited December 2, 2020 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Tony probably told him not to bother, that he could manage these guys to the playoffs in a drunken stupor. Good god man, is that what every thread will be like? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I know I’ve said this before, but I would be shocked if the new RF isn’t a lefty. Stone has mentioned probably 10 times they need a lefty hitting run producer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: Snell would qualify as a top flight pitcher. Joc or JBJ are a better option than Mazara. Outside of a black hole in RF. Thats all that matters. I like Springer but I am more worried about pitching than anything. Richards would be depth. Then let the rest fight for the prize and work on building up Kopech. I'd like them to bring one more guy in on a flier/MiLB deal.......got any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: The Sox have 3 pitchers that are MLB ready(Cease, Dunning) or close to it(Kopech) plus a guy like Lopez with an option that will almost surely be used, so the only way this becomes a complete disaster is if none of them take a step forward. I'm pretty sure that Kopech won't be up until June or whenever they get his TJS year back in the event of a shortened season. Dunning has shown enough to get a look this year, and Cease still hasn't pitched a full season or anything close to it at the MLB level. It sucks that the rotation is behind the offense, but if the Sox are patient....they could have a huge window of greatness in the near future, however in order to do that, you risk some of these guys busting. We are now in our competitive championship window. This is the time to push forward and to attempt to win championships in a sustained approach. Maybe Katz can fix Cease/Reylo, Maybe Kopech comes out strong and is everything we want, maybe Dunning is everything he can be. In the end you go out and get one more stud pitcher. You still have 2 spots in the rotation to fill then. You use the overage for bullpen/trade chits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, southsideirish71 said: Snell would qualify as a top flight pitcher. Joc or JBJ are a better option than Mazara. Outside of a black hole in RF. Thats all that matters. I like Springer but I am more worried about pitching than anything. Richards would be depth. Then let the rest fight for the prize and work on building up Kopech. I think Jesse meant that they would sign 100+ million dollar contracts. So I think he meant they won’t be dishing out dough on the free agent market. Snell wouldn’t be disqualified based on that info. So I would love if that happened. Edited December 2, 2020 by Orlando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just now, southsideirish71 said: We are now in our competitive championship window. This is the time to push forward and to attempt to win championships in a sustained approach. Maybe Katz can fix Cease/Reylo, Maybe Kopech comes out strong and is everything we want, maybe Dunning is everything he can be. In the end you go out and get one more stud pitcher. You still have 2 spots in the rotation to fill then. You use the overage for bullpen/trade chits. Trade for Lynn, sign Q. Seems pretty obvious this is the type of framework they have in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: I know I’ve said this before, but I would be shocked if the new RF isn’t a lefty. Stone has mentioned probably 10 times they need a lefty hitting run producer. Well that is a limited group of guys. Pederson is probably the only thing that is out in the FA market that fits that bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just now, Orlando said: I think Jesse meant that they would sign 100+ million dollar contracts. So I think he meant they won’t be dishing out dough on the free agent market. Snell wouldn’t be disqualified based on that info. He meant they’re not going after the super big name guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, fathom said: Yes but that Jerry didn’t want to spend big on free agency Yeah I thought he had mentioned that but I forgot. 5 minutes ago, fathom said: I know I’ve said this before, but I would be shocked if the new RF isn’t a lefty. Stone has mentioned probably 10 times they need a lefty hitting run producer. I agree with this. That should be a priority. What would you think if it was a switch hitting RF? Edited December 2, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just now, southsideirish71 said: Well that is a limited group of guys. Pederson is probably the only thing that is out in the FA market that fits that bill. Joc, JBJ, Rosario, trade candidates like Calhoun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just now, fathom said: Joc, JBJ, Rosario, trade candidates like Calhoun Babe Ruth jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Orlando said: Babe Ruth jr I'd look at Schwarber for DH. Shouldn't be that expensive. Edited December 2, 2020 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: I'd look at Schwarber for DH. Shouldn't be that expensive. Except for the whole Vaughn thing. Indians should go after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I'd look at Schwarber for DH. Shouldn't be that expensive. Vaughn is going to be the DH. Edited December 2, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: Vaughn is going to be the DH. Unless they feel like they can get away with keeping him in the minors and saving him for next year. If they could spend $5M and get an extra year of service from Vaughn, why wouldn't they? Edited December 2, 2020 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: Vaughn is going to be the DH. Imagine if they got the bright idea that Schwarber could play RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Unless they feel like they can get away with keeping him in the minors and saving him for next year. They were an inch away from calling him up this year. He will be their primary DH this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, fathom said: They were an inch away from calling him up this year. He will be their primary DH this year. If Vaughn is as good as we all think he is, and the lineup is already this good....why bring him up now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: If Vaughn is as good as we all think he is, and the lineup is already this good....why bring him up now? Whats the advantage of not bringing him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Unless they feel like they can get away with keeping him in the minors and saving him for next year. If they could spend $5M and get an extra year of service from Vaughn, why wouldn't they? What the heck? I know Vaughan is unproven but if he’s not light years ahead of Schwarber as we speak I would be super surprised. Schwarber sucks. He’s a platoon DH. Do we need that? Eh. Priority 76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: If Vaughn is as good as we all think he is, and the lineup is already this good....why bring him up now? Because that’s not how sports works. We’re not redshirting Vaughn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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