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21 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:

No official word.  Rosenthal was just speculating that he would.

Thanks.

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4 minutes ago, Baron said:

I still think its a good idea to circle back around and see what Texas wants for Lynn. 

I’m sure we have and if the price started with Vaughn in September I would expect it to be the same today.

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38 minutes ago, fathom said:

Puig is being sued for sexual assault. They better not even think about it.

A couple of weeks ago, I would have said the White Sox cared.  Now?  Who knows.

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4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

I’m sure we have and if the price started with Vaughn in September I would expect it to be the same today.

Could be. Texas did that with Mike Minor and traded him for peanuts this past deadline. They'd be better off trading him now. 

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This is a funny offseason for pitchers. To me there is a somewhat clear set of tiers, like an easy to translate "$15" game.

I guess I would put it as budget of $5, and you need to sign 2 pitchers, regardless of what you think of signing two.

$4 - Bauer

$3 - Morton, Gausman (I have to assume right?), Tanaka, Paxton, Quintana

$2 - Walker, Minor, Odorizzi, Kluber, Archer, Lester

$1 - Anything else

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44 minutes ago, fathom said:

Puig is being sued for sexual assault. They better not even think about it.

Good way to help mitigate the La Russa PR nightmare

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1 minute ago, bmags said:

This is a funny offseason for pitchers. To me there is a somewhat clear set of tiers, like an easy to translate "$15" game.

I guess I would put it as budget of $5, and you need to sign 2 pitchers, regardless of what you think of signing two.

$4 - Bauer

$3 - Morton, Gausman (I have to assume right?), Tanaka, Paxton, Quintana

$2 - Walker, Minor, Odorizzi, Kluber, Archer, Lester

$1 - Anything else

I'd sign Bauer and roll with a cheap signing, but the kids we have now (Cease/Kopech/Dunning,etc) and go to war.  Give me the TOR guy.

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Just now, southsider2k5 said:

I'd sign Bauer and roll with a cheap signing, but the kids we have now (Cease/Kopech/Dunning,etc) and go to war.  Give me the TOR guy.

Yup, completely agree.  Give me the TOR guy and I'm cool with Dylan, Dane and Kopech fighting for 2 spots.

If I can't sign Bauer and I'm still going from that list I'll roll with Q and Kluber.

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Just now, Rowand44 said:

Yup, completely agree.  Give me the TOR guy and I'm cool with Dylan, Dane and Kopech fighting for 2 spots.

If I can't sign Bauer and I'm still going from that list I'll roll with Q and Kluber.

Option A: 

Sign Bauer, roll with the kids

Option B:

of the guys on that list, I'd go with Quintana and Odorizzi. 

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1 minute ago, Rowand44 said:

Yup, completely agree.  Give me the TOR guy and I'm cool with Dylan, Dane and Kopech fighting for 2 spots.

If I can't sign Bauer and I'm still going from that list I'll roll with Q and Kluber.

If you get a clean bill of health on him,  Kluber is actually my #2 choice.

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3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I'd sign Bauer and roll with a cheap signing, but the kids we have now (Cease/Kopech/Dunning,etc) and go to war.  Give me the TOR guy.

I'd like to see Cease do a Crochet thing where he pitches in a late inning bullpen role.

He's never been a big stamina or control guy anyway.

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4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

If you get a clean bill of health on him,  Kluber is actually my #2 choice.

I'd stay away from Kluber as I thought he had a pretty nasty shoulder injury and I'd be concerned about severely diminished stuff. Let someone else take that risk. 

https://www.mlb.com/news/corey-kluber-shut-down-has-right-shoulder-tear

Edited by Jack Parkman

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1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

If you get a clean bill of health on him,  Kluber is actually my #2 choice.

Kluber and Walker would have the most potential.

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Just now, Jack Parkman said:

I'd stay away from Kluber as I thought he had a pretty nasty shoulder injury and I'd be concerned about severely diminished stuff. Let someone else take that risk. 

He had a slight tear in April and he's already pitching again.

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Just now, knightni said:

He had a slight tear in April and he's already pitching again.

Still, you can't risk a Peavy situation. 

Hard pass. I'd have to see him pitch again, or he'd have to sign a 1 year deal that's pretty cheap. 

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I would be thrilled if we signed bauer, but I actually am fine with Gausman/Odorizzi. Neither prevent us from doing anything at any other time, could be traded easily, and will be productive.

Though, Odorizzi may be a little risky for innings, but he also could be a buy low candidate.

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5 minutes ago, bmags said:

I would be thrilled if we signed bauer, but I actually am fine with Gausman/Odorizzi. Neither prevent us from doing anything at any other time, could be traded easily, and will be productive.

Though, Odorizzi may be a little risky for innings, but he also could be a buy low candidate.

Guys I'd target: 

Bauer

Quintana

Odorizzi

Walker

Had Gausman not received a QO he'd be on this list. He's not good enough to give up a 2nd rounder for. 

 

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7 minutes ago, knightni said:

He had a slight tear in April and he's already pitching again.

This.  You give the guy a physical and get a hold of his medicals.  You want a clean bill of health.  But in terms of ceiling, there aren't many better.

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11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

This.  You give the guy a physical and get a hold of his medicals.  You want a clean bill of health.  But in terms of ceiling, there aren't many better.

His medicals don't tell me the quality of the stuff he's throwing up there. I'd want him to face MLB hitting again before I do anything. He's someone I'd grab as a rental at the deadline if he's back and still Corey Kluber. Not a guy I'd sign without seeing his performance first. That changes if he's really cheap, and if they go for him I'd like to sign another pitcher as insurance in case he suddenly has become James Shields in a Sox uniform. 

At the very least I'd like to get Kluber in front of a rapsodo before signing him. 

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32 minutes ago, bmags said:

This is a funny offseason for pitchers. To me there is a somewhat clear set of tiers, like an easy to translate "$15" game.

I guess I would put it as budget of $5, and you need to sign 2 pitchers, regardless of what you think of signing two.

$4 - Bauer

$3 - Morton, Gausman (I have to assume right?), Tanaka, Paxton, Quintana

$2 - Walker, Minor, Odorizzi, Kluber, Archer, Lester

$1 - Anything else

3's and 2's should be combined into the 2's.. Leave the 3 blank 

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Ummm do the players that still have qualifying offers know that they have 30 minutes to either accept or reject the offers? We haven’t heard any news on this yet. 

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47 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

If you miss on Bauer, Kluber is the only POTENTIAL difference maker of the bunch. 

Paxton to me if he’s healthy is as much of a difference maker as anyone besides Bauer

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Just now, fathom said:

Paxton to me if he’s healthy is as much of a difference maker as anyone besides Bauer

Yeah, Paxton is pretty good when healthy. Problem is, he's never healthy. 

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