Soxnfins Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 just started on the app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Question, why does ageism only apply to old people? Why say can the Sox not hire a 16 year old manager? You would consider that absurd, right? Why? Because their brains aren't fully developed... As you age, cognitive decline happens. It's simply a fact. I find the ageism thing hilarious; old people run the world - politics and other positions of power. Meanwhile, young people never get opportunities of power. Are you going to tell me that's not ageism either? Answer: it doesn't. In any case, I'm not really interested in entering into a "debate" on a baseball message board about whether age discrimination, a persistent and measurable injustice whose prevention is enshrined in 50+ years of civil rights legislation at the federal and state levels, is a good or bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Anyone know where to stream it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, chw42 said: Anyone know where to stream it? myteams app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: I say the inverse back to you - you base all of your points on 1 quote vs. his entire track record of being an extremely innovative manager. He was known for pushing the limits and coming up with unique decisions. So no - I'm not going to jump to a conclusion because of one freaking quote. I am sure if we looked at any of us - we have all had 1000's of quotes that were either misinterpreted, incorrect, or maybe just we no longer agree with them. I may look back a 1 year from now and go - wow you were all right, he really is all those things you said. I'm just stating - I don't freaking know and I don't think anyone on here having an epic tantrum really knows. They are literally looking for any little thing they can point to to cry wolf, while ignoring a sample size of a HOF career. I'm just saying R-E-L-A-X people - this is not the deal that it is being made to believe it is on Soxtalk. And I have said a million times over - I personally wouldn't have hired him, but I don't think it is the worst move of the last 50 years or anything crazy like that. How many you want? Quote “What’s happening now is that the analytics, it’s really getting a lot of attention and I never begrudge the analytical guys because they love the game and they want to be a part of it,” La Russa said. “So they’re trying to elbow, ‘I want more, more, more.’ “But it’s really an important preparation tool. If you let it interfere with the decision making of your manager and coaches, you’re going to be easier to beat,” La Russa concluded. Quote “That what makes our game great and the priority is to do anything we can to enhance that. Some of the primary enhancers are the coaches and the managers and the teaching. “You’ve got to preserve that and you’ve got to emphasize that. The analytics are valuable tools and the information from them has its place. But when that place starts to diminish the priority of the coaching that goes on and the decision making that goes on, then you’re worse, not better.” Citing a longtime Cardinals minor league manager and instructor, La Russa said, “The George Kissells are becoming irrelevant. How can that possibly be? George Kissell is a relic? That’s bull. “In my opinion, George Kissell and guys like him are actually more important now than they were then because so much teaching has to go on at the major league level.” Quote "It stops before the first pitch is thrown. In no way will the manager and the coaches at whatever level be given a program where this is your lineup, this is the way you run your offense, your defense. It is not possible. The game is too dynamic. Men against men. Change every day. "Absolutely a preparation tool. We have two sides. We have the metrics/analytics, and we encourage our manager and our coaches to be observational analyzers. Their analytics are based on their observations. Is your bat slow. Is it fast? Do you have a good breaking ball today? Is your confidence up, down? All that stuff that you can’t know ahead of time." He's been making this point literally for a decade, including when he ran the Diamondbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Soxnfins said: myteams app I don't live in Chicago so I can't watch it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 There was an inappropriate post that was hidden and action was taken. We are being fairly lenient here, please get a hold of yourselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Answer: it doesn't. In any case, I'm not really interested in entering into a "debate" on a baseball message board about whether age discrimination, a persistent and measurable injustice whose prevention is enshrined in 50+ years of civil rights legislation at the federal and state levels, is a good or bad thing. So why can't a 34 year old be POTUS but an 87 year old can be? Do you think an 87 year old is sharper cognitively than a 34 year old? Again, I'm asking you because it's absurd. Older people rule positions of power, and many 20-35 somethings can't move up in their careers despite doing the job of those "Executives." So again, I didn't see anyone saying to not be disrespectful when they said Jirschele was too young. Edited October 29, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, chw42 said: I don't live in Chicago so I can't watch it that way. I don't live in chicago either, i'm up in WI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: How many you want? He's been making this point literally for a decade, including when he ran the Diamondbacks. And hes right. tony doesnt pull snell the other night. Analytics worshippers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Line Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Baseball is still just baseball. All the analytics crap is overrated. Give me a manager who knows the game like Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 on mlb tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirdGen Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Wasn’t there an article saying how the Cardinals clubhouse under him had no energy Looked like they had energy when they were running around with the World Series trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Hahn looks figgity and pissed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Soxnfins said: I don't live in chicago either, i'm up in WI I'm in Texas, I'm no where near the range for NBCSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, Soxnfins said: Hahn looks figgity and pissed Because he’s lying through his teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, ChiSox1917 said: And hes right. tony doesnt pull snell the other night. Analytics worshippers do. You're 100% right. And it's also equally right that the Rays don't come anywhere close to the world series with that roster without having trusted the analytics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Hahn looks like he hasn’t been sleeping much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, chw42 said: I'm in Texas, I'm no where near the range for NBCSN. mlbnetwork has it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Presser just popped up on NBCSN. I don't even have the hard to post hlghlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Rick is disheveled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: Hahn looks figgity and pissed He sure does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, TheTruth05 said: mlbnetwork has it on Yup, I'm following it on there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said: LOL the Sox hire TLR and you think this??? Really? I think he meant social progression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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