The Hawk Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, manbearpuig said: I honestly don't think Collins will be the backup catcher. One might open up as the DH (keep the seat warm for Vaughn) but I think they will sign a better defensive backup than Collins. If anyone other than Vaughn is penciled in to be the DH, it had better be Mercedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: You should check out Collins' AAA line last year pre and post his call up. After he was sent back down, he made some adjustments and tore up the IL in almost the same sample size. It doesn't mean that it will fully translate to the majors, but he did seem to turn the corner. pre callup: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/zack-collins/19181/game-log?type=-2&gds=2019-04-04&gde=2019-06-16&season=&position=C/DH post: https://www.fangraphs.com/players/zack-collins/19181/game-log?type=-2&gds=2019-07-17&gde=2019-09-02&season=&position=C/DH That was interesting information. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, The Hawk said: That was interesting information. Thanks. Sure thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Really dropped the ball in 2019 by not giving him (or Yermin for that matter) more playing time. Either should have been the DH after releasing Alonso but nope, they went the AJ Reed route instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, manbearpuig said: Really dropped the ball in 2019 by not giving him (or Yermin for that matter) more playing time. Either should have been the DH after releasing Alonso but nope, they went the AJ Reed route instead. Somebody pointed it out that clearly this team doesn’t believe in them. That is really the only explanation for it. The team has had plenty of opportunities to give them a chance and not taken any of them. I had high hopes for both but I don’t think they get their chance with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, yesterday333 said: Somebody pointed it out that clearly this team doesn’t believe in them. That is really the only explanation for it. The team has had plenty of opportunities to give them a chance and not taken any of them. I had high hopes for both but I don’t think they get their chance with us. Nope. It's time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital G Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 45 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: Really dropped the ball in 2019 by not giving him (or Yermin for that matter) more playing time. Either should have been the DH after releasing Alonso but nope, they went the AJ Reed route instead. Last year too. EE had nothing. You could tell he was not going to all of a sudden blow up. I would have rather have seen what Collins would have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 11 hours ago, hi8is said: Can we all leave it and avoid more poker references? Please? @RagahRagah and @michelangelosmonkey... deal? I explained myself and no response since so I assume my point is taken (probably not but we can give the benefit of the doubt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Maybe I missed it, how have we not brought up Eaton? He was bought out by the Nats ... seems like a really easy 1-3 year contract at a reasonable price, fills a need, and we're familiar with him. Now, I do believe he has the persona of being a locker room asshole, and I personally didn't like him, but between the lines he fills everything we need. Shorter term, reasonably priced, fills a need, etc. I think he could be an awesome 2 hole hitter .... or .... possibly a 7/8 hole hitter. 2 years, $14mm, option for a 3rd year at another $7mm with a $1mm buyout. Seems like a win-win for all parties. Don't tie up payroll, get a serviceable RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: Maybe I missed it, how have we not brought up Eaton? He was bought out by the Nats ... seems like a really easy 1-3 year contract at a reasonable price, fills a need, and we're familiar with him. Now, I do believe he has the persona of being a locker room asshole, and I personally didn't like him, but between the lines he fills everything we need. Shorter term, reasonably priced, fills a need, etc. I think he could be an awesome 2 hole hitter .... or .... possibly a 7/8 hole hitter. 2 years, $14mm, option for a 3rd year at another $7mm with a $1mm buyout. Seems like a win-win for all parties. Don't tie up payroll, get a serviceable RF. He was bad last season. I don't think he does better than a one year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Even better then. Also, i take last year's stats - both good and bad, with a grain of salt. Its not like he doesn't have a body of work. He should be able to get play 100-120 games of above average RF ball. He's a Nick Markakis type player. Nothing to write home about - but fills a hole, and fills it admirably at a reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: Even better then. Also, i take last year's stats - both good and bad, with a grain of salt. Its not like he doesn't have a body of work. He should be able to get play 100-120 games of above average RF ball. He's a Nick Markakis type player. Nothing to write home about - but fills a hole, and fills it admirably at a reasonable price. He was discussed in a thread yesterday (Offseason targets I think?) and no one thought it had any shot of happening, despite an Eaton/Engel platoon potentially being good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 With the La Russa hiring, it looks like any clubhouse vibe considerations are out the window, so maybe Eaton becomes an option now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Vulture said: With the La Russa hiring, it looks like any clubhouse vibe considerations are out the window, so maybe Eaton becomes an option now. Hope not. Eaton isn't that good player first of all and he is an asshole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 52 minutes ago, The Hawk said: Hope not. Eaton isn't that good player first of all and he is an asshole. So is La Russa, hence why I conclude that might no longer be considered a deterrent in acquiring Eaton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, Vulture said: So is La Russa, hence why I conclude that might no longer be considered a deterrent in acquiring Eaton Why in the world would they ever bring Adam Eaton into this team? There is so much positivity on the team right now. Eaton doesn't help the team in any way and he actually would hurt the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, The Hawk said: Why in the world would they ever bring Adam Eaton into this team? There is so much positivity on the team right now. Eaton doesn't help the team in any way and he actually would hurt the team. I won't tell you about all of the categories that Eaton out produced Nomar Mazara in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, The Hawk said: Why in the world would they ever bring Adam Eaton into this team? There is so much positivity on the team right now. I just told you why in the comment you quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: I won't tell you about all of the categories that Eaton out produced Nomar Mazara in. Eaton out produced him in several categories for sure. Being a real asshole and being very much over-paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 hours ago, The Hawk said: Eaton out produced him in several categories for sure. Being a real asshole and being very much over-paid. That and WAR, oWAR, dWAR, batting average (which you seem to think is very important), runs scored, stolen bases, BABIP, OBP, wOBA, and RC+,. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 12:10 PM, BrianAnderson said: Maybe I missed it, how have we not brought up Eaton? He was bought out by the Nats ... seems like a really easy 1-3 year contract at a reasonable price, fills a need, and we're familiar with him. Now, I do believe he has the persona of being a locker room asshole, and I personally didn't like him, but between the lines he fills everything we need. Shorter term, reasonably priced, fills a need, etc. I think he could be an awesome 2 hole hitter .... or .... possibly a 7/8 hole hitter. 2 years, $14mm, option for a 3rd year at another $7mm with a $1mm buyout. Seems like a win-win for all parties. Don't tie up payroll, get a serviceable RF. Not too far off. I'm taking a victory lap here. 2 years, $15.5mm - only tied to 1 year with that $1mm buyout. Still echo the rest -- not the best, but serviceable. Can hit in the 2 hole or down in the 7/8 hole. Onward and upward to bigger needs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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